msp build parts (preview!!....:)

sorry to hear sanders - i may be able to help - if you don't want the block i could kick you down some $$$ - can it seriously be salvaged? i don't mind over boring provided it is minimal.

LMK

Yup , the shortblock is salvagable but the crankshaft is definently not.
0.20 overbore would be all its needs. Imo the block needs to be blasted and cleaned first, there are some rust spots. Plus, you would need main rods, main rod studs, a full bearing kit and think thats it.
Because the crankwalked so badly it made some very large grooves in two of the main rods...talk about a bad build job:(.
 
Yup , the shortblock is salvagable but the crankshaft is definently not.
0.20 overbore would be all its needs. Imo the block needs to be blasted and cleaned first, there are some rust spots. Plus, you would need main rods, main rod studs, a full bearing kit and think thats it.
Because the crankwalked so badly it made some very large grooves in two of the main rods...talk about a bad build job:(.
Interesting - I'm going to do a full build so the shortblock is all I need. PM me with what you want for it and I will do a bit of research to see if it will work for my situation.
 
I just got back from the shop and took some pictures of my motorless car and built motor, but first here is the story leading up to where I'm at now.
Originally, I was going to use Jomo's built motor but we ran into several problems. All the cp pistons were pretty much destroyed because the motor crankwalked so much when it was in his car. If Joe and I had known that the motor wasn't built well in the first place of course I would have never of purchased it..there goes a huge chunk of my money invested in this project. My mechanic who disassembled the built motor found a thrust washer sitting in the oil pan and large grooves(friction) in the crankshaft from the improperly installed thrust washers and main bearings. So, the only parts that I could salvage were the crower rods. Finally, the only way I could have used the shortblock was to send it to a machine shop to get overbored(cylinder walls were scorred from piston slap), but I don't have the time or money for that. Plus it needed a new crankshaft too. I'm really pist off about this whole situation and I'm not going to name any names, but this motor was doomed from day 1. Oh yea, note that it only had 3500 miles driven when it was built before it was uninstalled and I bought it. I'm not recommending people to get work done at this shop anymore.

Currently the shortblock, crank, bearings, main rods, and thrust washers are in joe's garage. Pictures of those parts coming soon.

Here is a comparsion between my stock piston vs. the cp pistons that were in the built motor. Clearly, the forged pistons banged the cylinder walls pretty violently. I'm proud of how nice the stock pistons and rods look after I was boosting 12psi!!
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My guess is a valve floated and tapped this piston and took that chunk out.
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Held together strong for 50,000 miles.
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Now, on to some good news! Since I didn't use the motor from Joe, the only thing left to do was use my stock motor. So far, everything has gone smoothly and quickly too. The cylinder head is being assembled, however, they ran into a problem because the crower cams need to be shimmed. These cams have a much much larger lift than the stock cams.

Here is a pic of my car....haha, she is friends with the van.
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Built motor waiting to be installed(cabpatch)
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Wow man that sucks, looks like it'll probably worth it to start with another block. GL man.
 
I'm pretty sure I know that name that you don't want to mention

I'd give him a close line because from what I read the motor was in good condition (from what he said)
 
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Just got my box in the mail...You know what that means! Everything is working to plan....You will soon be able to take over the world!
 
Just got my box in the mail...You know what that means! Everything is working to plan....You will soon be able to take over the world!

LOL sweet man! When are you going to uninstall the PWR? I'll have chip's truck tomorrow If you want to meet halfway, let me know.

update: walbro fuel pump arrived today:)
 
Got my car back and it runs great! It idles and accelerates better than it did when I bought it with 8,800 miles. For now, I'm on the stock turbo/intercooler and GHL downpipe and full 3" exhaust. Oh yea, the spec light weight flywheel is sweet and helps rev the engine so nicely.
Just to freshen up your memory banks. The car is now fully built with crower rods, 8.5:1 CP pistons, awr oil pan, fully ported/polished 5angle valve job cylinder head, stock tranny, awr motor mounts, and I'm probably forgetting a bunch of things but you get the idea.
I sold my Sleeper manifold, downpipe, and 626 manifold but will be getting a thumper manifold and v-band downpipe by january. Once I get everything ready to bolt on we'll see what she can do!!:D
 
Nice. Sounds like fun to me. Guess I'm gonna have to talk to you about where to get a motor built when time comes since a certain shop has just lost potential business.I'm only gonna go there to get tuned if I get Haltech.

I wanna hear about 15psi though! Have fun.. I know you will.

Not that it matters but I never called u back cuz I didn't have the money for that manifold.
 
Nice. Sounds like fun to me. Guess I'm gonna have to talk to you about where to get a motor built when time comes since a certain shop has just lost potential business.I'm only gonna go there to get tuned if I get Haltech.

I wanna hear about 15psi though! Have fun.. I know you will.

Not that it matters but I never called u back cuz I didn't have the money for that manifold.

Yea , my experience with this shop has been good since day one. So far, the car is running soundly and smoothly.

Its all good, I sold the manifold and downpipe already.

boostdprotegelx said:
it's coming along.

yup , its been a long process and the real fun hasn't even started yet.
 
You never let me know...BOOO. I guess lets plan for when I get back unless you wanna make a drive down tommorow. I leave to New York on Sat morning and get back the 27th.

....since a certain shop has just lost potential business.

Nobody ever talks about their good experiences do they? Think about that... I know of easily 5 cars that have turned out great, more importantly very satisfied customers. This is Sanders thread though but I had to put in my .02.

ON TOPIC

Come get your Radiator! (smash)
 
Haha, I'll be out of town as well so I won't be able to pick it up until I get back. Its really not a big deal because I still need to get some slims fans before I install the radiator.
 
No plans for the tranny or do you just have a back-up lying around when it goes?

I know this is stupid but I don't have a backup if mine breaks. I'm going easy on the car during the break in period and once the big turbo is installed perhaps I'll invest in a junkyard transmission or a welded LSD. I'm not really worried about it right now, I'm just enjoying the car because I missed driving it so much.
 
I think you need to be more worried about the gears. The LSD you already know you needed to upgrade/replace no matter what you do to the car.
 
I can't say I blame you for wanting to just get it running again, I know it's been down for a while. I blew my 3rd gear a while back at 10psi shifting at 2500rpm's but that with with the unrevised synchros. I replaced that with an 03 which has all the revised components plus a welded MSP LSD. My motor will be going in soon and I will be doing stronger 3rd & 4th just haven't figured out exactly what yet!

Good Luck and resist the urge to romp on it during your break-in!
I know that's going to be hard for me!!
 
I can't say I blame you for wanting to just get it running again, I know it's been down for a while. I blew my 3rd gear a while back at 10psi shifting at 2500rpm's but that with with the unrevised synchros. I replaced that with an 03 which has all the revised components plus a welded MSP LSD. My motor will be going in soon and I will be doing stronger 3rd & 4th just haven't figured out exactly what yet!

Good Luck and resist the urge to romp on it during your break-in!
I know that's going to be hard for me!!

haha..yea , I 've just been going through the gears but haven't punched it yet. Still have to go through another tank of gas and then I'll change the oil too. I would love to get my hands on a revised LSD for cheap and have it welded by 505zoom's welder...that would be tight.
Good luck with your motor bro, let us know how everything turns out.
 
Quick update: My awr oil pan is leaking oil all over my exhaust. Apparently it needs to me resurfaced....this is getting really frustrating. Also, my kasmanak gold cam gears also need to be machined because they don't fit.
The good news is that my turbo manifold and new downpipe should be here next week which means I'll finally be able to make some serious hp!
Does anyone know where to find the ecu pinout diagram so I can install the Haltech E6X?
 

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