PG Pump Installed

[Captain KRM P5]

we sent out two more pumps today, can't wait to see other's results

 

[mrlilguy157]

that thing ******* flies.

so the pg pump doesnt need any sort of ems to control it, correct?
You said everything on your standback is zeroed out, doesnt that mean that it's not really controlling anything, except for boost, with how it is now?
If this has been said before, I apologize. I'm actually going to go back through and look for it as I wait for a response.

hey laloosh, have you driven the car with the Standback bypass plug in? Just curious how, if any, the car will react differently.

i run the PG pump with no EMS whatsoever. my only mods are listed in my sig.

no symptoms, backfiring, richness, boggyness, nothing. just more power (silly)

 

[fourthmeal]

I wonder if the BCK could be removed now, mrlilguy. What do you think?

 

[mrlilguy157]

I wonder if the BCK could be removed now, mrlilguy. What do you think?

Possibly, but I wouldn't think so. The function of the BCK is to limit the pressure seen at the MAP sensor on the intake manifold. Although there is more fuel available for the car and more boost can be run safely, I don't think the ECU/PCM parameters actually change the initial clip at 18psi or whatever.

I'm leaving mine on, there is no reason to remove it. I won't be using a CPE standback whatsoever. I'm going with the AEM wideband/truboost electronic boost 'gauge' type controller for a custom panel that is in my car. Using also a turbo timer. Later a short ram intake will come as well as a test pipe, intercooler, and water/meth.

ill be at 350whp no problem, if not more.

 

[redrocketz]

I doubt you can hit 350whp on a Speed3 without some sort of tuning software especially with the Meth.

If you are using any type of REAL tuning equipment the BCD is more harm than good. I have witnessed this first hand MULTIPLE times.

 

[laloosh]

i bet you im not to far from 350whp and im not using any type of tuning software...just a boost controller. i/tbe/exhaust manifold/ic/18psi/map clap/fuel pump 350 shouldnt be hard to get...esp if you throw meth on top

 

[silverspeed03]

When did you get a Manifold?
Is it the one from PG?
Last question, What IC are you using?


Excellent numbers BTW, you are really being the Guinea pig for everyone with a MS3. I think everyone here really appreciates what your doing. Keep up the good work.

 

[laloosh]

i dont have any off those mods. All the car has is i/tbe/pg fuel pump/ems at 18psi untuned. Stock ic, stock manifold, stock fuel and timing stock turbo...umm stock everything that would make more power.

 

[clos561]

you should get ur computer tuned before your motor pops laloosh...

 

[mrlilguy157]

you should get ur computer tuned before your motor pops laloosh...

if a/f is good (which it is), and the ecu isn't pulling a crazy amount of ignition timing then there is no reason the motor would pop. people have been running 18psi for quite awhile now...

 

[mrlilguy157]

I doubt you can hit 350whp on a Speed3 without some sort of tuning software especially with the Meth.

nah.... 30whp gains are seen with the proper nozzle on water/meth, no tune refined, been there seen that in person. i am sure that with a proper tune for the application even more power would result though.

If you are using any type of REAL tuning equipment the BCD is more harm than good. I have witnessed this first hand MULTIPLE times.

i agree.

 

[redrocketz]

I'm just going from a personal view on it I don't think with all of that stuff I would recommend running the meth long term without a tune because you want to throw timing in to get the best gains from Meth.

 

[laloosh]

you should get ur computer tuned before your motor pops laloosh...

my motor is going to pop with i/tbe/18psi? I dunno about that one...especially after the fuel pump where the maf tells the ecu how much fuel it wants

 

[mrlilguy157]

you want to throw timing in to get the best gains from Meth.

indeed. but with decreased temperatures you'll see less timing pulled initially.

 

[ATE BALLER]

IIRC, the speed 6 guys have seen the timing advance while meth was being injected. The ECU was doing it on it's own, I believe. I think someone even posted a log of it over on the other forum. This from back before the xede even came out I think, but I still don't think anyone's played around with tuning for it yet. I know the evos love it as is, but you can essentially double it's gains with proper tuning on them. These cars, who knows?

 

[meha11]

i run the PG pump with no EMS whatsoever. my only mods are listed in my sig.

no symptoms, backfiring, richness, boggyness, nothing. just more power (silly)

Congrats for the pump sucess.
Im interested in how much power you picked up with just the pump, is there any chance of you timing a 60-100 run in 4th or 6th gear then it can be compared to my times below so all can see your real life gains, i just did this to monitor my own gains and eliminate the human factor but it could compare with someone elses car too. (1/4 tank of gas with 2 poeple in car is what i did).

If you think on and have time to do so please post your time.


Cheers.

 

[cornflaykes]

This is for laloosh and millerguy.

Is there any way to monitor knock with the standback? Or retard the ignition timing? I am not familiar with the standback but a big fan of ebc's/mdc's with atp bck.

And congrats on the 12.9 pass, looks like your time and money is paying off now.




-Benji-

 

[laloosh]

you can retard or advance timing witht he standback, you can't monitor knock or a/f ratios with it.

 

[cornflaykes]

Thanks

 

[mrlilguy157]

Congrats for the pump sucess.
Im interested in how much power you picked up with just the pump, is there any chance of you timing a 60-100 run in 4th or 6th gear then it can be compared to my times below so all can see your real life gains, i just did this to monitor my own gains and eliminate the human factor but it could compare with someone elses car too. (1/4 tank of gas with 2 poeple in car is what i did).

If you think on and have time to do so please post your time.


Cheers.

i'll see what i can do. i'm at school in oklahoma and don't have a video camera up here, but i'll ask around and maybe i can get something done this weekend.

This is for laloosh and millerguy.

Is there any way to monitor knock with the standback? Or retard the ignition timing? I am not familiar with the standback but a big fan of ebc's/mdc's with atp bck.

And congrats on the 12.9 pass, looks like your time and money is paying off now.

Although I don't have a standback, I do know you can retard or advance ignition timing with the standback. I don't think you can look at knock (I think its completely stupid to release a product that is supposed to be a tuning solution yet it can't monitor knock, thats a huge necessity in tuning vehicles), and i guess A/F cannot be monitored either.

Josh Adams told me otherwise though.