Cp-e problem with me

[Flogbox]

In CPE last post they stated that they don't care who is wrong or right. They are just trying to provided more test data to the community to ensure the gains are indeed PROVEN in more then this one case.

So until they do their testing any owner of an MS3 isn't allowed to post their own data and findings? He provided data, timeslips to which CPE flatly disagreed with those findings but yet provided no real world backup. CPE refused to comment further of which that post was worded...well lets i read it the same way that Laloosh did and he had every right to spit the dummy.

As for claiming 'proven gains' get real mate. Manufacturers will put out 'ideal' gains for their product to make it look better than it is. If i want to find out how good a mod is i'll talk to the customers that have paid for it and can provide real world opinions.

Laloosh tells it like it is. That, is an opinion worth listening to.

 

[truggs]

ok everyone here needs to learn to chill out and take a step back. You are seeing one side of the story and automatically saying CPE is to fault.

Everytime CPE had a comment Laloosh would get confrontational. You guys do what do what you want here as I could care less, but to jump on the bash CPE bandwagon with just one side of the story shows that everyone here believes everything they read on the internet.

I am sure the mods put him on timeout for a reason other then CPE banning them from their sub forum. However it is none of our business and I actually only care about the end result of the research that CPE is conducting as it will apply the pump that PG is selling as well as the pump that CPE is producing.

 

[Betelgeuse]

ok everyone here needs to learn to chill out and take a step back. You are seeing one side of the story and automatically saying CPE is to fault.

Everytime CPE had a comment Laloosh would get confrontational. You guys do what do what you want here as I could care less, but to jump on the bash CPE bandwagon with just one side of the story shows that everyone here believes everything they read on the internet.

I am sure the mods put him on timeout for a reason other then CPE banning them from their sub forum. However it is none of our business and I actually only care about the end result of the research that CPE is conducting as it will apply the pump that PG selling as well as the pump the CPE is producing.

Umm, both sides of the story are in plain view for anyone to read. It's not like there was a secret thread or meeting somewhere. They didn't believe him and bashed his findings on more than one forum. He fought back with data to prove his point which they didn't seem to like for whatever reason.

 

[udontknowjack]

LOL.. Thank god this drama is gone from the "OTHER" forum. Re-read what you posted.. They banned you from their SUB FORUM for being confrontational. If you got banned from the entire forum then blame the admin/mods on that.

And to come over to this forum and try to put them and their products down shows just how much of a child you are being right now.

In CPE last post they stated that they don't care who is wrong or right. I am sure they would love for a fuel pump to show these types of gains. Hell it would help them sell theirs. They are just trying to provided more test data to the community to ensure the gains are indeed PROVEN in more then this one case.

i musta miss it....when did laloosh ever put cpe products down????

 

[udontknowjack]

hmm...did laloosh got banned on this forum too??

 

[tru-boost]

well i have to stand behind you laloosh, not surprising i guess, we agree on most stuff. i have talked to cp-e when i was considering the standback. all i heard on the phone for 20 mins was some dude with an ego complex rant and rave about why the "cp-e way" was the only way to go on these cars.
BS !!! i dont have any cp-e parts on my car now, nor will i ever after seeing this. what a bunch of little cry baby girls. jesus christ, you gat banned for nothing. those dicks should get banned for calling you a liar. you posted graphs you logged with THEIR SOFTWARE !! if they think the graphs are wrong or misleading, that means the standback is a piece of s*** not the fuel pump !! oh well their loss i guess. a lot of people are going to see them for what they really are now......just another company. one that will never get my bussiness too !
i backed you up on the other forum, while i defended the PG pump. i wont be surprised if i cant log in tomorrow !! screw thwm laloosh.... tell it how it is, thats why we like you !

 

[Finkle]

im yet to see cp-e post any graphs for their own gains
laloosh whatever happens i will take ur side (u have proved ur case) now if someone can PROVE laloosh wrong i will openly admit that i was an idiot and shoulda listened to the vendor (NEVER gonna happen)
Another thing i would like to say for laloosh is HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE A TUNE YET, so his numbers can only get better

 

[Fritch]

(sad2)

sorry man, its nothing personal. I've just seen so many bad vendors flat out lie or spread misinformation. Not all vendors are bad, but then again its like not all Civic drivers are bad yet they get a bad name from the other 95% and the fanboi idiots.

 

[laloosh]

thx guys it touches the heart. lol. as for some of the cpe comments made in this thread, I feel they are a lil harsh but everyone has a right to speak their mind. cpe does make quality parts, they are not the only one though. as for pg, their service is top notch as well. this is a treo message as I'm at a wedding so I won't respond right away.....open bar is more important than this thread lol

 

[Captain KRM P5]

+1 my sentiments exactly. The biggest thing laloosh has going for him is substantial evidence to back up his claims. While I don't know the whole story from both sides I'm going to assume there was a huge misunderstanding and everything got blown out of proportion. Both parties are doing a lot for the speed3 community so it would be better just to set aside differences and try to co-operate or just ignore the other.

Btw I'm Easternwind on the other forum,
Mike

just to clarify for everyone, which i hope was already done so enough by me in this thread, i have no beef with cp-e and no issues co-operating with them. i don't want there to be any misconceptions as to where the conflict lies here.

 

[laloosh]

one thing I find odd. cpe claims their pump is a different design from the pg pump I'm using. so why are they not believing my results is beyond me. unless infact its the same thing made by diff people.....hmmm

 

[Finkle]

hmmm now that is interesting, i wonder if it IS the same

 

[Captain KRM P5]

one thing I find odd. cpe claims their pump is a different design from the pg pump I'm using. so why are they not believing my results is beyond me. unless infact its the same thing made by diff people.....hmmm

having spoken to them and other parties in the industry, cp-e is will be using different internals than what we use. the basic principle behind the two pumps - increasing available pressure and fuel supply - however will be identical. unless i am mistaken, the external housings will be identical as well. until cp-e's pump is released its pure speculation, irresponsible even, to make these kind of comparisons. so no one should be doing that. its unfair to make these kind of accusations at them. when cp-e's pump hits the market they will no doubt offer up a full slate of test results for transparent and unbiased comparisons.

 

[Finkle]

well enjoy the wedding there buddy, its snowing like crazy here so they snowies go on tonite and hopefully ill park her
hopefully everyhting gets resolved soon

 

[chriscecc914]

looks like someone is mad that they were beat to the punch with a certain product being released.

 

[laloosh]

ok then if infact the pump is not the same then they have zero reason not to believe my results. different pump, different results. speed6 vs. speed3 ecu

 

[clos561]

ok then if infact the pump is not the same then they have zero reason not to believe my results. different pump, different results. speed6 vs. speed3 ecu

its all good laloosh, **** that site anyways. you have the fastest speed3 on non slicks....

 

[ccann26]

Their loss.

Laloosh, your posts are great. They are sincere, thorough, and supported by data. Drivers like you and this forum community here are an integral part of advancing R&D for the Speed3.

I've learned a lot from your posts and hope that you continue to share your experiences. Kudos!

+1 (yes)

 

[Falconx84]

wow... this is crazy stuff.... I was really enjoying the thread on the other forum

no matter what anyone says, those times are awesome. If I were you, I'd consider dumping the standback at their door in pieces once a better ems (read: AP) comes out

 

[Lil_vicious559]

thx guys it touches the heart. lol. as for some of the cpe comments made in this thread, I feel they are a lil harsh but everyone has a right to speak their mind. cpe does make quality parts, they are not the only one though. as for pg, their service is top notch as well. this is a treo message as I'm at a wedding so I won't respond right away.....open bar is more important than this thread lol

Damn laloosh sorry to hear about the miscommunication between you and CP-E. I feel they should have not banned you for no reason, even if you were being confrontational. I mean

1.) your there customer
2.) your using and flaunting there product
3.) that's money out of your wallet and into CP-E's pocket
4.) You posted proof with timeslips and all but yet they ban you for no reason
5.) That's bad business
6.) Report them to the BBB

Even From a misunderstanding point at all. They should have fixed the problem and arbitrated with you.

i can understand Captain KRM P5's point of view with not siding with one another. Regardless if i was a vendor or representing someone else's name. Believe me my business would be done with them, if a point ever occurred like your situation just happend