Turn Mazdaspeed3 CAI to Short ram

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Hello everyone, I'm quite new to these forums and new to Mazda with my 07 CB ms3. I bought the Ms CAI and thought well since it's a two piece I'll make it a short ram to get ready for the rainy season. I do not want to risk any water going into my intake system. I would like to know if anyone else has done this with their MS CAI? Maybe I'm worrying to much. But since my 03 SVT focus was hydro locked and called a total loss by the insurance company I've been a bit hesitant about buying any CAI.

 
Sweet man! Welcome to the forums by the by!

I believe someone has done the SRI setup for the MSCAI. How does it stack up to the full setup?? Have a comparison opinion on it? I'd like to know! :-)

-J
 
In my opinion when set up as CAI there is a bit better throttle response but very little i can hardly tell the difference. When set up as SRI the air coming in is warmer from the engine bay so you might not get as good a combustion so throttle response might differ. All i know is that cold air intakes operate on the idea of increasing the amount of o2 available for combustion with fuel. so when the air is cooler air has more density.
 
With the SRI set up the whsssssssssswhssssssssssswhsssssssssss sound while accelerating is pretty cool. I like the sound it's awsome!!!!1
 
Do you think the difference in air temps between SRI and CAI would matter since it's all going through the intercooler anyways?
 
If your left hand is 70 degrees and pass it over a 100 degree heat source and your right is 90 degrees and pass it over a 100 degree heat source, which will be cooler after the heating?
 
I'm guessing no since it will get really hot after the turbo anyways.....but I'm no expert in this.

Aww... me too. No expert here... someone with a little more knowledge porfavor? This is my brain....(chair) lol

-J
 
If your left hand is 70 degrees and pass it over a 100 degree heat source and your right is 90 degrees and pass it over a 100 degree heat source, which will be cooler after the heating?

Exactly. It a relative thing. Think of the intercooler and turbo as changing the temp by a fixed amount. If you start with a lower temp you'll end up with a lower temp after intercooling. The final temperature is related to the initial temp.
 
Do you think the difference in air temps between SRI and CAI would matter since it's all going through the intercooler anyways?

That right there is the biggest debate among turbocharged car owners. In the WRX community, cold air intakes are a no-no

the only thing I don't understand is people are claiming 30hp gains with a cold air and cobb only got 12hp out of their short ram. It has to be doing something..?
 
ZooMIN3 said:
Because.....

I did it like that because when I went to put it in, it was getting late and dark, and the lighting in my garage is a joke. I come from a family that, except for my late grandfather, could give two s**** about cars, so we have no tools, no garage goodies, nothing. The one good think out of it is I get to have his old MGB. Further, I don't have the delicate hands of a surgeon, but the butcher hands of an offensive lineman (I played for 12 years, wahoo!), so I could really use the help in some parts of the installation of the lower pipe.

Its going to be the full CAI because I paid for the full CAI, even when it floods down here I don't need to worry much (it at all), and I'll have the assistance I need because me and a buddy are doing a nice project day.
 
the reason why turbocharged engines don't necessarily obey the same rules as NA engines when it comes to intake temp is because our intake air gets compressed by the turbo to 15psi, which increases the air temp to ~200F before it's cooled down again by the intercooler, which uses ambient air to do this. now, the intake temp will technically have an effect, but this effect will be greatly diminished after the pressurization and then cooling. so, the difference in air temp between a SRI and CAI is not as apparent as the measured temp at the intake filter.

another important thing to remember is that the difference in air temp after the car gets moving is negligible between the CAI and the SRI. you will only heat soak when stopped at a light for a while or stuck in traffic. in the end, turbocharged cars don't have as clear cut a choice between CAIs and SRIs as NA cars.

when i sat down to make my choice between a CAI and SRI, i put ease of maintenance and install at the top of my list of things to consider. i chose my cobb SRI based on the knowledge that it would have similar performance in most situations to a CAI while being a hell of a lot easier to install and maintain (filter cleaning/replacement).
 
the only thing I don't understand is people are claiming 30hp gains with a cold air and cobb only got 12hp out of their short ram. It has to be doing something..?

keep in mind that cobb uses a mustang dyno, which is much more conservative than the dynojet that those people claiming 30hp are using.
 
the only thing I don't understand is people are claiming 30hp gains with a cold air and cobb only got 12hp out of their short ram. It has to be doing something..?

I think the difference is 4500ft elevation on a mustang dyno turning front and rear wheels.

All other things equal, I think you won't see an appreciable difference between the two.
 

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