StephanieT
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The Xede mapping is done, and has been for 11 months. It is the PNP connectors that are missing. If you wire it in, it works just fine. 
Stephanie
Stephanie
Who wants dibs on the XEDE PnP System?
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I am sorry I meant to ask when can we expect the PnP to be completed? Also what is the amount of HP/TQ does the XEDE bring just installed....no tuning.
The Xede mapping is done, and has been for 11 months. It is the PNP connectors that are missing. If you wire it in, it works just fine.
Stephanie
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I am curious as to the same questions Savage70 asked...?
StephanieT
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We do currently have one of the two needed connectors in stock. We are still working on getting the male connectors, but hope to have them in a few months. We are half way there.
For power increases -
Completely Stock:
221.5 fwhp & 229.5 ft-lbs torque.
Added Xede only:
287.6 fwhp & 309.9 ft-lbs torque.
The last map this car was tuned with is the one we use as the base map. That is a 66.1 whp gain and a 80.5 ft-lbs torque gain. I only know of one person who had his MS3 w/ Xede dyno'd. Nutari did his in Hawaii and I think he showed ~275 whp on the base map.
Stephanie
For power increases -
Completely Stock:
221.5 fwhp & 229.5 ft-lbs torque.
Added Xede only:
287.6 fwhp & 309.9 ft-lbs torque.
The last map this car was tuned with is the one we use as the base map. That is a 66.1 whp gain and a 80.5 ft-lbs torque gain. I only know of one person who had his MS3 w/ Xede dyno'd. Nutari did his in Hawaii and I think he showed ~275 whp on the base map.
Stephanie
Nutari... with the Xede already in place, what has been the effect of adding the Vibrant exhaust? I dont think Ive seen you mention a downpipe, or intake on your car.... but I assume youve got at least some upgrade on the intake. I think I recall you have the ETS.
Im interested in how its coming together for you...(dynos, maps, etc)... We dont have much info on Xede with bolt ons. It seems that everybody is going the cp-e route lately.
And Stephanie...
Can we expect a drop in the Xede price now that the market seems to dictate it. Wouldnt it make sense to keep your systems relevent by dropping the price, considering PNP has been more of a tease than a reality? If Im off base.... it seems a Begi pitch, on the Xede vs the standback would be on order.
Ive been a supporter of the Xede in this thread, but as the months have gone by and the market has moved forward, Im having second thoughts.
Im interested in how its coming together for you...(dynos, maps, etc)... We dont have much info on Xede with bolt ons. It seems that everybody is going the cp-e route lately.
And Stephanie...
Can we expect a drop in the Xede price now that the market seems to dictate it. Wouldnt it make sense to keep your systems relevent by dropping the price, considering PNP has been more of a tease than a reality? If Im off base.... it seems a Begi pitch, on the Xede vs the standback would be on order.
Ive been a supporter of the Xede in this thread, but as the months have gone by and the market has moved forward, Im having second thoughts.
The whole fact that the lack of a single connector is what is holding this system back from being pnp is getting old. SOO many people say they would get it if it was pnp, including myself, so it seems like that would be a top priority for Xede, it honestly seems like someone at the shop would have went to Radioshack and came up with something by now....... I mean seriously its the biggest draw back of the whole system, but it seems so easily fixed, I think its just an excuss now, and Ive been waiting along side everyone else for this.......
What gives already....
What gives already....
I could be, and most likely am, 100% wrong, but I think it might be just a touch bit more than just some plug connector. Back when I was about to pick up a BMW 335i (aka before I had a reality check), there was a huge (and still is I believe) mess all over the XEDE vs. PROcede stuff. Twenty page long threads over which one is better...and about 90% of the posting between the two same members with the tuners jumping in every so often.
My understanding from reading all those is that it has something to do with the box and pins and stuff like that.
My understanding from reading all those is that it has something to do with the box and pins and stuff like that.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123671313&highlight=mods
"Here Nutari was kind enough to post dyno graphs of his tuning sessions with the SPEED3. His car isn't stock (I saw an ETS top mount intercooler but no mods list) and he didn't make as much power as BEGi."
What are you talking about?
I did those runs with the ETS off. I'm also in Hawaii. HUGE climate difference than Texas where BEGI is located.
No, I havent been able to go back to the dyno to retune the XEDE for all my mods since the original dyno time. (MS CAI, CS DP, Vibrant Exhaust)
I am trying to make an appt for next week.
Once again, if anyone would like to donate $100 to me for said dyno time, I would gladly make 100 dyno graphs for you all.
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ragindark, I replied to that right after he posted it.
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StephanieT
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I wish I could say that getting a hold of the connector was as easy as picking up the phone and ordering them from Tyco. But no dice. These are still proprietary to Mazda for another year or so. If they were so easy to get, everyone would have them by now. We do have the male part of the connector, but not the female. The female portion comes with the entire ECU housing as well. So that will require some modification, once we can get it. We are not being lazy, just trying to cut thru all the red tape. We also need these connectors for the MX5 as well. It is frustrating, but we are making progress.
Stephanie
Stephanie
I am not a rocket scientist... [Captain Obvious disclaimer alert]
But can't somebody with a little fabrication or artistic ability make a resin mold based on the male connector you have OF the female connector? I don't know what this connector looks like, but of ANY system with male/female connectors one can usually envision or reverse enginner one or the other if they have half of the pair. Is it just the innards of the female connector that are giving everyone so much trouble, and not the housing/body of the part?
Somebody call the Mythbusters! I bet they could fabricate a female connector in no time, then get some knowledgeable people and some wiring manuals... Yeah, I know, I'm just a thinker.
Ain't never as easy as you 'think' it would be. I just wish SOMEBODY would make a EMS that was plug and play because I want one something fierce, but I am NOT splicing and cutting and taping up wires.And somebody made a point above about pricing; when Cobb comes they'll be near the cheapest, and PnP - so it seems for me after some more comparison shopping, giving Xede or CPE or SOMEONE else has PnP, if they don't match in price I'm already in the Cobb campground.
I made 245whp stock and 260~tq.
so how is picking up 30whp a big deal? Im just curious to why every1 thinks this is so special. Once again they raised boost and made power. The end, as for the dyno thats on their website, i simply dont believe it
30whp is a big deal...
no when you simply raise the boost and do nothing more. Buy a simple boost controller, you will get 30 safe whp as well.
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