this guy deserves a medal

Sir Nuke

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More great govt. policy from the political geniuses and pundits in Hollywood, whose money and stardom, of course, make them experts in everything.

For those of us who have spent those long hours, days & months away from home, this is especially close to our hearts. Lets hear it for this young man.

On 12 Nov, Ms Cindy Williams (from Laverne and Shirley TV show) wrote a piece for the Washington Times, denouncing the pay raise(s) coming servicemembers' way this year -- citing that the stated 13% wage was more than they deserve.

A young airman from Hill AFB responds to her article below. He ought to get a bonus for this!

"Ms Williams:

I just had the pleasure of reading your column, "Our GIs earn enough" and I am a bit confused. Frankly, I'm wondering where this vaunted overpayment is going, because as far as I can tell, it disappears every month between DFAS (The Defense Finance and Accounting Service) and my bank account.
Checking my latest leave and earnings statement (LES), I see that I make $1,117.80 before taxes. After taxes, I take home $874.20. When I run that through Windows' Calculator, I come up with an annual salary of $13,413.60 before taxes, and $10,490.40 after.

I work in the Air Force Network Control Center (AFNCC), where I am part of the team responsible for the administration of a 5,000-host computer network. I am involved with infrastructure segments, specifically with Cisco Systems equipment. A quick check under jobs for Network Technicians in the Washington, D.C. area reveals a position in my career field, requiring three years experience with my job. Amazingly, this job does NOT pay $13,413.60 a year, nor does it pay less than this. No, this job is being offered at $70,000 to $80,000 per annum. I'm sure you can draw the obvious conclusions.

Also, you tout increases to Basic Allowance for Housing and Basic Allowance for Subsistence (housing and food allowances, respectively) as being a further boon to an already overcompensated force. Again, I'm curious as to where this money has gone, as BAH and BAS were both slashed
15% in the Hill AFB area effective in January 00.

Given the tenor of your column, I would assume that you have NEVER had the pleasure of serving your country in her armed forces. Before you take it upon yourself to once more castigate congressional and DOD leadership for attempting to get the families in the military's lowest pay brackets off AFDC, WIC, and food stamps, I suggest that you join a group of deploying soldiers headed for AFGHANISTAN, I leave the choice of service branch up to you. Whatever choice you make, though, opt for the SIX month rotation: it will guarantee you the longest possible time away from your family and friends, thus giving you full "deployment experience."

As your group prepares to board the plane, make sure to note the spouses and children who are saying good-bye to their loved ones. Also take care to note that several families are still unsure of how they'll be able to make ends meet while the primary breadwinner is gone -- obviously they've been squandering the vast piles of cash the DOD has been giving them.

Try to deploy over a major holiday; Christmas and Thanksgiving are perennial favorites.

And when you're actually over there, sitting in a DFP (Defensive Fire Position, the modern-day foxhole), shivering against the cold desert night; and the flight sergeant tells you that there aren't enough people on shift to relieve you for chow, remember this: trade whatever MRE (meal-ready-to-eat) you manage to get for the tuna noodle casserole or cheese tortellini, and add Tabasco to everything. This gives some flavor.

Talk to your loved ones as often as you are permitted; it won't nearly be long enough or often enough, but take what you can get and be thankful for it. You may have picked up on the fact that I disagree with most of the points you present in your op-ed piece.

But, tomorrow from KABUL, I will defend to the death your right to say it.
You see, I am an American fighting man, a guarantor of your First Amendment rights and every other right you cherish. On a daily basis, my brother and sister soldiers worldwide ensure that you and people like you can thumb your collective nose at us, all on a salary that is nothing short of pitiful and under conditions that would make most people cringe.

We hemorrhage our best and brightest into the private sector because we can't offer the stability and pay of civilian companies. And you, Ms Williams, have the gall to say that we make more than we deserve?

Rubbish!

A1C Michael Bragg, Hill AFB AFNCC"

THIS LETTER SHOULD BE APPLAUDED BY ANYONE WHO'S EVER SERVED OR HAD A FAMILY MEMBER SERVE IN THE ARMED FORCES! THIS YOUNG MAN DESERVES A MEDAL
 
Very well written. I completely agree. I have a good friend that might be headed for Afghan around the New Year. I totally understand and commend his stance.
 
AMEN....I can't believe some ass would even denounce a pay raise. These soldier's lives are PRICELESS...the way I see it, all the sports players,actors, and other totally useless professions should get $5 an hour, and the heroes....soldiers, teachers, farmers, should be getting 2 million dollars a year.
 
AMEN Brother and thanks Sir Nuke for posting this for us.


"the way I see it, all the sports players,actors, and other totally useless professions should get $5 an hour, and the heroes....soldiers, teachers, farmers, should be getting 2 million dollars a year."

AMEN Again! I can't believe those baseball players and basketball players and others that complain about not making enough money! That just pisses me off something awful. Here they are living in the lapp of luxury for playing a game and they are complaining about it!
 
Damn good post Nuke...

s***-headed She-Communist Newspaper Columinst. The GI that posted was very well written... It sounds to me like the lady in question needed to be dropped off over in Afghanistan, or Libya, or maybe Liberia... so she can get a damn reality check on where our freedom comes from, and how it's earned.

Makes me want to re-enlist. :mad:
 
For those who are too lazy to click the link and read, this is what Snopes.com posted:

Origins: No, actress Cindy Williams, who portrayed sweet, lovable Shirley Feeney on the 1970s sitcom Laverne & Shirley hasn't been writing newspaper articles denouncing our "overpaid" servicemen. Back in January 2000, a different Cindy Williams -- one who is a senior research fellow at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and was once assistant director for national security in the Congressional Budget Office -- contributed an op-ed piece to The Washington Post (not the Washington Times) in which she criticized a proposed 25% pay increase for military personnel (on top of a 4.85% raise that had just been enacted). In her article, Ms Williams maintained that claims that servicemen in the military suffered a 13 percent "pay gap" relative to the private sector were inaccurate, and that military personnel were already well paid compared to the average American.

The full text of Cindy Williams' article can be found here. The response quoted was indeed drafted by the airman named, although it was not published in The Washington Post.
 
LinuxRacr said:
Read my post above yours, and check the link. Sorry Nuke.

NO s***....well blow me down! lol so its one of those urban legend sorta things....cool....I had recieved it in the mail from another EX service memeber like myself....and those things just tend to piss me off....for whether or not the part about Ms. Williams writing the letter or not is true....I can tell you one thing....EVERY year when the budget is needing to be signed to give our service memebers their raisies....there is always a delay.....because some DICK doesn't think they deserve it.....and there are plenty of people in this country sitting back doing nothing but enjoying the liberties that these men and wemon ensure that they have....and do nothing but give them crap....THAT CHAPS MY ASS....and why I posted it up to begin with.....

linux....no harm, no foul...as stated....there is certainly someone out there that thinks exactly what was written.

(stash)
 
as a service member i am proud to do my job no matter what we get paid but more money would be nice.
5 1/2 years in the navy and still counting
 
brokemp3 said:
as a service member i am proud to do my job no matter what we get paid but more money would be nice.
5 1/2 years in the navy and still counting

know what you mean Broke.....I did 6 in the navy myself. and never once did I even consider, or ask how much the pay was when I was enlisting.....it just wasn't a consideration.
 
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