Performance upgrade help

[Tamn]

If your keeping it Na....megasquirt it, then put on a larger throttle body or ITB's. You can upgrade the ignition system when you MS it to some pretty cool options. You could always rebuild it with higher compression...do some more headwork, etc but I don't know if you wanna rebuild your engine just for that.

 

[tweety2300]

Dude I have a 1.6 in my 323 its a turd on 8 psi but still outruns the protege with ease, 18psi is another story.

I am giving you advice, if you want it to be fast you will have to boost it. NA builds to be "fast" are a waste of time unless you sink more than it would cost to forge and boost it.

 

[BRIAN_MP5T]

AAC makes an independent throttle body.

 

[nytrokevin]

Has anyone even looked at my photos? Go view my vehicles

 

[nytrokevin]

I have a msd 4 tower coil pack on the way and plug wires I got from eBay and I made a custom mount for it already but I'm still not 100% sure how to wire it yet tho

 

[Spiced MSP]

Has anyone even looked at my photos? Go view my vehicles

what's the point in us looking at the photos? The way the car looks has nothing to do with how it performs

 

[BRIAN_MP5T]

I have a msd 4 tower coil pack on the way and plug wires I got from eBay and I made a custom mount for it already but I'm still not 100% sure how to wire it yet tho

You will need to wire them in "Wasted Spark"

The coils will interfere with the Cam and Crank sensors, they generate a huge level of RF interference, hence why nobody uses them.

You Do Not Need A Huge Spark, You Have a STOCK CAR!

The spark will not make any performance improvement.

 

[nytrokevin]

I thought that because i will be useing bigger injectors(more fuel) that i would neeb more spark to burn it no?

 

[BRIAN_MP5T]

You do not need more spark unless you plan to add boost (Lots of it) or add a fuel that is more difficult to burn such as 106 or 116 Octane.

I dump three time the stock volume of fuel under full boost at 94 or higher.

That added boost it becomes more difficult for the spark to cross the gap. Pressure increases the voltage required so I need to increase the strength of my coils.

Going High compression N/A also requires more spark, but I am talking about in the range of 14:1.

 

[Tamn]

I thought that because i will be useing bigger injectors(more fuel) that i would neeb more spark to burn it no?

Bigger injectors actually atomize the fuel less, so its less efficient. You should only upgrade them if you need too. On all the racecars I work on, we use the smallest injectors we can use. Otherwise your getting fuel droplets.

Also, you need an ECU that's capable of telling your injectors to spray more fuel...injectors on their own do no more spray than normal ones.

Just my experiences.

 

[nytrokevin]

i have the MegaSquirt-II EMS System - SMD PCB3.57 just sitting there waiting for me to install it

 

[nytrokevin]

also id like to just throw this in that i have about 15 cans of black rocker guard and i plan to paint the full car with in hopes to hide some dents and cover up some rust lol

 

[Tamn]

also id like to just throw this in that i have about 15 cans of black rocker guard and i plan to paint the full car with in hopes to hide some dents and cover up some rust lol

If you're gonna go to the trouble of painting it, why not fix the dents and rust before hand. Some bondo and sand paper?

Trust me, if you've never done body work before. Paint highlights problems, it doesn't hide them.

 

[BRIAN_MP5T]

So you want to make the car more powerful, then make it weigh more with Rocker Panel Paint?

You dont need bigger injectors
You dont need more spark

You could literally get a stock 2.0L FS engine and ECU, and end up with more HP than you could ever make with a 1.6L.

 

[nytrokevin]

The protege is seriously only my winter beater car and i use it to take my dog to the park and for rides just thought it was worth wasting a little more money into for fun but i guess not youve killed the dream lol.So you think i should just waste money into my rx-8 instead? Its the only stock vehicle i have left lol and thats just because i bought it for my girlfriend but im sure she'll manage to drive my F350 around for a while and ill throw her car in the garage and go with that thanks for all the help guess its time i switched over to the rotary forum

 

[tweety2300]

Except the fact that its a rotary... If you know a lot or know someone who does go for it. If not make sure you have a back up. Of course if you're not boosting it or spraying it you shouldn't have a whole lot to worry about

 

[BRIAN_MP5T]

that thanks for all the help guess its time i switched over to the rotary forum

Probably going to be a better use of your time and money..