boycott the dixie chicks!

I have no problem with your choice, or your comments, but to applaud radio stations for not playing their music is BS. That's censorship, which I am against in any form. That's like saying the media is always right in what they present, even though we all know they present a very slanted view on everything.
My point is, if you boycott them, you had better be boycotting EVERYONE that has done or said anything similarly stupid, which means you should, again, trash the DVD player, TV, and radio. That's the only way you know you are being equal and fair across the board. Jumping on a bandwagon with everyone over a stupid comment, which I agree was wrong, is only giving more attention to an already bad situation.
Join the censors if you want, just make sure you go over to Iraq to do it. Leave my country free for MY choosing. I'm an American, and I have a right to choice, my own. I don't need a damned radio station or TV news channel to make those choices for me.
 
There's more at work here than you think.

1) George W. Bush is in the pocket of big businesses, just like every Republican.

2) Big businesses now own the majority of all radio stations out there, for example Clear Channel.

3) If some artist -dares- speak out against Bush, he makes a phone call to his big business bitches and tells them to stop supporting that artist, or playing their songs on the air.

The result is that someone's career is ruined for exercising their right to free speech. Sounds more like Fascism than Democracy.
 
andy_guerriero said:
The result is that someone's career is ruined for exercising their right to free speech. Sounds more like Fascism than Democracy.

Very good point. How soon will we bcome the next dictatorship of the world?
 
I've been boycotting them since they came out. I hate there junk music. So I am sure as hell not listening to a damn thing a pathetic singer has to say.

Why don't we all just listen to Vanella Ice's opinion on Korea if where taking this useless whench seriously.
 
andy_guerriero said:
There's more at work here than you think.

1) George W. Bush is in the pocket of big businesses, just like every Republican.

2) Big businesses now own the majority of all radio stations out there, for example Clear Channel.

3) If some artist -dares- speak out against Bush, he makes a phone call to his big business bitches and tells them to stop supporting that artist, or playing their songs on the air.

The result is that someone's career is ruined for exercising their right to free speech. Sounds more like Fascism than Democracy.

this is the single most incorherant load of bulls*** I have everr heard. Radio stations Djs and artist always speak against the president. Republics are a HUGE minority in the media, Radio TV and newspaper. That is a FACT!

Another is the US gets no oil or commodity from Iraq, however Francve does and is why they are hell bent on not letting us in there as they No Sadams stupid ass will destry his own oil and there with it. We could give a damn less, we have no interest in there oil. If the American people decide an artist is a damn fool for there beliefs then that is our collective right. An artist, AKA just another studio created douch bag, has to realize that just becuase you get bitched slap for saying something stupid, don't go blaming other for thinking your an idiot.

Freedom of speech is not limited to someone saying what they believe it extends to the reaction of all others that disagree with them.

Localy there is a boycott going on over Mudvayne for saying some crap about how Bush was as Bad as Sadam at a WAAF concert. A local DJ for WAAF decided that he would not play Mudvayne anymore. Being that the show belongs to the DJ he has every right and uit is apart of his 1st amendment right to not play them. I also stopped listening to Mudvayne as they discoust me and there obvious lack of inteligents totaly underminds all there music.

The Dixie Chicks are ultra F-D becuase the majority of the country music listeners are Republican or atleast some what conservative.
Thus radio stations have been swapped by angry listeners asking them not to play there song.
Not to mention the Dixie Chicks waited until they sold out there South Carolina Show before saying a word. Being that they knew no one would buy tickets after that.
 
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I still don't understad. The people in carge of the radio station do not like their views so they won't play their music. what wrong about that?? and i agree with them fully. if they want t run their mouth their will be things that will happen.

it's their bussiness and their right to lay who ever they want on the radio. and if you don't like that boycott the radio station. plain and simple. damn people are getting mad when orther people excrise their rights.
 
saided18 said:
I still don't understad. The people in carge of the radio station do not like their views so they won't play their music. what wrong about that?? and i agree with them fully. if they want t run their mouth their will be things that will happen.

it's their bussiness and their right to lay who ever they want on the radio. and if you don't like that boycott the radio station. plain and simple. damn people are getting mad when orther people excrise their rights.

Bravo, exactly!
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Hi. It's really easy to sit back and call BS on people, but do you have any sources to back up what you are spouting? Because I have sources to back up my facts.

1st MP3 in NH said:

Radio stations Djs and artist always speak against the president. Republics are a HUGE minority in the media, Radio TV and newspaper. That is a FACT!

Well, no it's not. Check out Clear Channel's web page for example:

http://www.clearchannel.com/ci.php

They state right there that they own 1,225 radio stations. You think the DJs get to decide what they play? Think again. They have programs and playlists they have to stick to. If big brother says stop playing Dixie Chicks, they do it, or lose their job. Clear Channel also has a lobbyist in Washington, and they are a major campaign contributor to guess who?

Another is the US gets no oil or commodity from Iraq

Also not true. Check out this source:

Imports of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products into the United States

You can see that just in December of 2002, we imported well over 11 million barrels of oil from Iraq. That makes them one of the top 10 providers of oil to the US.

however Francve does and is why they are hell bent on not letting us in there as they No Sadams stupid ass will destry his own oil and there with it

Not really sure what this or the rest of your post meant, but seriously, check your facts before you decide to debate someone.
 
1st mp3 said it best.


Facts about France and Russia:
we talked about why france and russia oppose a war today in my international business class. iraq owes france piles of money and if there is war, guess what, france prolly wont see that $ again. same with russia. They had a huge trade agreement with iraq (remember months ago that the US wanted to block that agreement?)

As for importing iraq oil, this is somewhat true. A majority of our oil is by Saudi Arabia pumping at capacity and not only having stored an extra 50 million barrels, but they booked 8 more two million barrel ships to deliver the US extra oil for April. However, in the past months, Prez Bush has made sure to reduce the oil we receive from Iraq because guess what- if he goes to war, do u really think Iraq would keep delivering? Smart move, Prez.

I say 1st MP3 has it right! :)


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1st MP3 in NH said:


this is the single most incorherant load of bulls*** I have everr heard. Radio stations Djs and artist always speak against the president.

Except of course all the right wing, conservative ones of which there are a few.


Republics are a HUGE minority in the media, Radio TV and newspaper. That is a FACT!


Except for the fact that they are all owned by conservative big buisnesses. They leave all the liberal and lowclass crap on because they know controversy means ratings. They really don't care about Republicans or Democrats, they just want money.


We could give a damn less, we have no interest in there oil.

Although I don't belive oil is the main reason for all this, you're a fool if you don't belive there is an interest in it.

If the American people decide an artist is a damn fool for there beliefs then that is our collective right.

this is true.

Freedom of speech is not limited to someone saying what they believe it extends to the reaction of all others that disagree with them.

This I also agree with.


Being that the show belongs to the DJ he has every right and uit is apart of his 1st amendment right to not play them.

Don't belive that a DJ has any say over what they play. The company and radio "consultants" choose what's on the playlist.


I also stopped listening to Mudvayne as they discoust me and there obvious lack of inteligents totaly underminds all there music.



Before you start questioning other peoples intelligence, you should proofread your letter.


I say the solution is F**K all these overpaid weinies and support local bands. Or go buy a guitar and make your own damn music.:p
 
Clear channels number of stations is hardly an indication of single stations decision to play songs.

Actauly a DJ has full authority of what they play, if they refuse to listen to managament they can be fired but one that is a popular DJ will never be fired for it. Example Greg Hill From WAAF for not playing Mudvayne eventhough it was the most popular song in there rotation. The programming Director still played there songs on her show as did all the other DJs.

In your list of oil to the US Iraq is there, I stand corrected but am i wrong in seeing that Suadi Arabi send us more then 4 times Iraqs countities, now find the list for France. Also add to this that those numbers are only for Arab OPEC. there were a total of 267,278 (b) imported and only 11,338 from Iraq.
Thats less then 5% of all exported coming form Iraq. Considering we could get that much made up from one of thirdt other sources, even ourselves, which has been one of Bush's plans already put into effect.

GOD DAMN IT MY TYPING IS TERRIBLE!
you see I am always good for a laugh even in a political debate.
Lets see if I can type better then a 3 year old this time.
France relies on Iraq for oil much more heavily then we do. Sadam has already stated that his troops will destroy Iraq oil fields if the US invades. Thus if France get alot of oil from Iraq and Sadam destroys the Iraq oil fields then Frances oil supply will be significantly shortened. Hence this is Frances largest problem with using force against Sadam. France is more concerned with oil as a factor not the US. We can and do get ours else where were as France is more heavily reliant on Iraq. But lests no argue that. See if you can find a similat document for Frances oil importing habbits.

By the way I do fully agree with you that the Republican politicians are in the hands of big buisness, however so are democrates. The entire election process demands they be. No democrat is going to get the city of Harlem to put up enough cash for them to run an election. i use Harlem as a democratic strong hold example as are miost poot urban areas. Thus they to rely on buisness to put up money. both sides have very weathy lobbiest ensuring there wants are met. the whole damn system needs to be restructured but even that yeilds to another problem.

Is an elected officail voted in becuse the people trust the offical to vote his mind and they voters knwo they will agree or do they elect an officail that will vote as they want him to no matter there demand.
I personaly vote only for people that I feel will vote and conduct themselves as they feel they should not becuase of public reaction and certainly not for Buisness damnds. Other fun fact you may like to know is I do not alwasy vote republican and I did not vote for Bush in the Presidentail election.

Also, just know I do value and appriciate the opinions of others even if they differe from my own as that is the only way a full truth can be found.
 
pdhaudio said:
ugh i mean this to be a patriotic move, not some civil liberties crap! :(

As I see it, to an American, civil liberties are as patriotic as it gets.
 
pingdum said:


Except of course all the right wing, conservative ones of which there are a few.

Except for the fact that they are all owned by conservative big buisnesses. They leave all the liberal and lowclass crap on because they know controversy means ratings. They really don't care about Republicans or Democrats, they just want money.

Although I don't belive oil is the main reason for all this, you're a fool if you don't belive there is an interest in it.


Don't belive that a DJ has any say over what they play. The company and radio "consultants" choose what's on the playlist.

Before you start questioning other peoples intelligence, you should proofread your letter.

DO me a favor and list who owns the major networks in america then list there CEO.
I'll get you started, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, and CNN.
Also remember that it is reporters and editors that decide the stories and no one else. Ted Turner isn't proof reading anything. The majority of editors and reporters are liberal. All i hear and read all day long is liberal with the exception of WRQO which is an AM prodminetly republican channel, God Bless you Rush!
Let also not forget that the majority of teacher in this country are liberals. Thus kids from day one are bumbared with liberal BS.
The smart ones know how to handle it. When we had to do jurnal entries on a book of our choice, I chose Rush Limbaghs the way things out to be. Pissed the teacher off royal, but nothing see could do about it.

As for my post, i spend no time proffing or spell checking, i have other s*** to do.

Do me another favor and list a big buisness that is conservative and how you knwo this without liberal logic, facts only baby cakes!
 
1st MP3 in NH:

Here's a link on France:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/ipm/imports.html

Go to France and click on the monthly report. It's a spreadsheet, kinda hard to read, but it appears that through Oct 2002, Iraq was a fairly major exporter of oil to France. Not sure what happened but it dropped off in November.

So I agree with your points on why France has much to lose from this war. If nothing else, they will have to answer to the US when we are controlling the Iraqi oil fields (if any are left).

I respect your point of view also - I just don't appreciate being told that what I've said is BS unless sources are present to back it up.

I'm for the war, by the way. I love a good ass-kicking as much as the next guy, especially when I can watch it on TV.

I just hope we clean up after our mess. I also hope no one is fooling themselves into thinking this is about anything other than oil.
 
pingdum said:


As I see it, to an American, civil liberties are as patriotic as it gets.
I agree, the liberties at risk our those of the US citizens and the Iraq citizens. unfortunitly no one gave much of a damn about the Iraq liberties until those founded by sadam nocked down the trade center. But action against them would have been political suicide without it and may still be, we will see in a year.
 
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