Best FMIC kit ?????

[CRDMS1]

i bet, the stock one looks really skinny. how come though on their comparison dyno runs the boost is higher on the run after the fmic was installed? did they adjust a boost controller to keep it at the same level or is it just because of where the gauge reads from?

You're talking about the 0.2 psi increase

This is peak boost and is easily within the tolerance of an electrical gauge (sampling rates, etc.), not to mention that boost doesn't always spike consistently if you haven't noticed

Peace...(hippy)

 

[jred321]

well since there is a 2psi pressure drop across the intercooler when compared to the stock intercooler, how did they gain .2 psi?

 

[505zoom]

well since there is a 2psi pressure drop across the intercooler when compared to the stock intercooler, how did they gain .2 psi?

Once again, there is not a 2 psi drop. It is less than 1psi!

 

[CRDMS1]

well since there is a 2psi pressure drop across the intercooler when compared to the stock intercooler, how did they gain .2 psi?

It's an absolute figure...not compared to the stock IC. FWIW, I'm not sure anyone has measured the pressure drop across the stock system w/piping but you can make your own assumptions if you have ever seen the plastic pipes flex. I encourage you to read the entire thread if you're really interested in the results.

Peace...(hippy)

 

[iON Performance]

Ok guys, let's get some facts straigtened out

Here's a picture of the stock IC vs our stage 1 FMIC:

Here's a picture of the stage 1 FMIC installed:

Here are the facts & results:

- Charge temps went from 60C (post I/C on the stock set-up) down to 20C on our stage 1 FMIC.

Stock car baselined: (Before stage 1 FMIC) - boost was 5.5psi peak
(Run #1) 120.6whp peak @ ~6000rpm, 125lb-ft torque @ 4200rpm
(Run #2) 119.4whp peak @ ~6000rpm, 114lb-ft torque @ 4200rpm
(Run #3) 116.2whp peak @ ~6000rpm, 106lb-ft torque @ 4700rpm

After stage 1 FMIC added (w/ stock airbox & K&N panel filter): boost was 5.7psi peak
(runs #1-11 were all higher then #12, we stopped at 12 runs)
(Run #12) 139.3whp peak @ 5800rpm, 146.3lb-ft torque @ 3900rpm.
Baseline Dyno Run:

After Stage 1 FMIC was installed (12th dyno run showed)

After an EBC was installed and our 3" cat-back, boost was set to 8.9psi and 192.2whp was made. This was the 12th run as well that set the 192.2whp

 

[iON Performance]

funnylittlman - our FMIC kits are specifically made for the MSP.

beans - our stage 1 & stage 2 allows you to replace your tiny MSP radiator w/ the larger 2L radiator. This affectively allows you better cooling for your motor as well as denser air for the intake charge.

TX Speed Demon - please read the above post. The baseline dyno was done on a STOCK MSP running FACTORY boost levels which was measured to be 5.5psi peak. We DID NOT alter the boost after the stage 1 FMIC kit was installed and ran on the dyno 12 times. It posted ~20whp gain just by swaping to our stage 1 FMIC set-up. The 8.9psi run made 192.2whp (71.6whp more then stock) using a Greddy Profec B set @ 8.9psi and our 3" cat-back w/ stock down-pipe & cats in place.

jred321 - please read the above post as well. All the details are clarified there.

For those wondering why there was a 0.2psi boost pressure increase - When we rate the pressure drop for our FMIC, we rate the WHOLE kit. Not just across the core. The stage 1 FMIC set-up has less then 1psi pressure drop. The stock has more then 1 psi pressure drop. Hence without changing anything, the car made 0.2psi more. Our boost was measured by a MAP sensor from Dyno Dynamics which is tapped into the system of the car and the boost pressure is recorded during the dyno runs. We also confirmed it's accuracy with a Omori mechanical boost gauge.

 

[boostisgood]

Good Job Ion. Sheesh I am sooooooooooooo torn. Custom setup or Ions. Arrrggg. You take mayments ? lol

 

[CRDMS1]

That's what I'm talking about

Now go order one

Peace...(hippy)

 

[iON Performance]

boostisgood - well we could do a "lay-away" for you, but you won't get it until you pay in full

 

[ping]

iON - what are you doing all the way out in Calgary? If only you were here in Jersey...

 

[sil-15]

boostisgood - well we could do a "lay-away" for you, but you won't get it until you pay in full

Do you even have these in stock? Like if I called you today could I buy one and have it shipped out the next day? I am unfimiliar with your company... who makes your fmic kits? Do you make them or is someone making them for you? What are they made out of? Alum. piping? What kinda of quality can i expect?

Thanks,
-Chris

 

[boostisgood]

Chris,

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21575&highlight=FMIC+Ion

Read this thread, they devolped and R&D it all in house.

 

[spoolinmp3]

Hello guys,
We have just completed our prototype FMIC and CAI for the MSP. We will be completing a full turbo back exhaust with HKS muffler next week. I will start a new thread when we get closer to our release date. Our FMIC will require no drilling and cutting of any kind. The pressure drop is under 1psi with all piping. The setup is very clean with minimal bends and cuts. We are utilizing high polished stainless steel, silicone hoses and stainless clamps.
We will have these items available soon in stock ready to ship

Do you even have these in stock? Like if I called you today could I buy one and have it shipped out the next day? I am unfimiliar with your company... who makes your fmic kits?

We make all of our stuff in house. Feel free to stop by our shop and see whats going on. Everything is handmade and quality is paramount. We have been providiing the protege aftermarket since its infancy and are here to serve the MSP community

Stay tuned for pics!

 

[sil-15]

ooook, he doesn't specify what the piping WILL be made of or a date when the kit should be available. (in reguards to the ion thread)

 

[iON Performance]

sil-15 - the piping is stainless steel. You can get in on the pre-sale as there's a few spots left. Then it's only $900US shipped via MO or $963US shipped via CC by Paypal

We have FMIC cores all done, our piping is coming back from the benders and these will be ready to ship.

FYI, Turbo & Hi-tech Magazine will be featuring our Stage 1 FMIC ,street spec turbo-back exhaust as well as our race spec springs for the MSP in an upcoming issue shortly.

 

[sil-15]

sil-15 -

We have FMIC cores all done, our piping is coming back from the benders and these will be ready to ship.

I thought you said everythign was made in house? And are these pipes mandrel bent? If so why are they at a pipe bender?

 

[iON Performance]

sil-15 - yes everything is made in house, we sent some of our pipes which had more then 1 weld to get formed into one piece.

All the piping for the kit is mandrel bent. Just wanted to minimize the # of welds to provide the smoothest path possible internally for the air charges.