2003.5 Custom Fog Light Kit

[www.03msp.com]

When I posted the final pictures, I had TEN points regarding the understanding of the pictures. This was one of them "time". Heck, like I said, I "rushed it" to get the pictures up as I normally wait 24 hours to let the paint dry.

Yes, a little time and patience. I thought it was pretty darn good that I could assemble four sets, paint them, and work with two (both seperate fog and driving sets), do pictures, and reengineer the driving light to make it functional in under 3 hours.

Again, thanks for everyone who is listening and providing input. If I hear one more crack about the gap and people not reading the posts, see this:

Seriously and sarcastically yours,

Brian

 

[II-Savy]

Ok yea...I hear ya. I'm not rippin' on you, just trying to say my opinion. It looks like you spent a ton of time on these kits.

So you say with some adjustment the gap could be uniform around the light? Is this correct? Can you take a pick of the other side that you said looks good?

I wonder if there is some way to hide/cover whatever that clip on the driving light set.

All in all I think I will still purchase the driving light set.

I also had another idea, you could hide those screws with a cap or cover you can get at a hardware store.

 

[www.03msp.com]

I understand about "the bashing" thing - I'm not taking offense to that. Without spending any more time with my bumper (s***, I have to many little scratches because of the prototypes anyway) here are my thoughts:

The curves that are laser edged currently on the outer ege of the plates (can and will be smoothed down by my grinder) and you won't see those points (CAD splines).

Also, I can disregard the outside brackets for the driving lights and put them in the rear, but I would have to force the plate towards the front of the car about 1/2-3/4" of an inch, keeping the same distance that the driving light currently sticks out by using riser posts behind the plate meaning the plate would be out 1/2" or so from the actual lip. Though, at this point, those who are "anal" about it can buy four riser posts at Home Depot and four new screws per side and do it themselves as most of the people don't give a damn. Regarding covering those tiny little brackets up, yeah, a tiny piece of black 1/8" black adhesive foam strip (50 cents at Walmart for 8 1/2 x 11" sheet) will do the trick too! Regarding the screws, heck, they're black, you can get caps, but that will only increase the depth and diameter - again, left up to you.

Oh yeah, for those of you who don't want to spend time and center it, get some electrical tape and lay that down around the edges like a picture frame, but the assembly on and you won't see anything!

Remember, the fog lights are flawless in design. Who wanted the driving lights anyway, hmmmm????? I can make anything work and look good, remember THIS IS A KIT. I did not design the lights or the bumper, I'm trying to do the best that I can given what I have to work with.

Ideally, I would LOVE to put the Catz MSC bright as s*** lights in here. Oh yeah, my plate WILL WORK with it, duh - but price is $$$.

- Brian

 

[INiTiAL33]

Can you do more shots of the full front but closer?

thanks.

 

[www.03msp.com]

Oh yeah, gotta' rant a little bit - it's Wednesday and the week is dragging -

I don't see anyone, anywhere with any solution besides mine in either a) beta or b) final product. I would love for someone to come out with a light and a "molded" surrounding for our car - is it going to happen - doubt it, limited production car.

- Brian

 

[www.03msp.com]

Full front, yes, this weekend when it is light outside (maybe earlier).

So whomever wants what I have to offer, go to my web page and order via the ordering instructions.

Thanks.

- Brian

 

[II-Savy]

Hey I'm not the only one who wanted the driving lights Plus those are way more useful.

Riser posts, what are these?

 

[www.03msp.com]

Riser posts/plastic spacers

X screw head
----- plate
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
----- bumper lip
||| screw tip

http://www.vorlac.com.au/catresults.cfm?select=85&subcode=241&stock_no=17752

 

[II-Savy]

So your saying using the posts the bracket you made would be off the car a bit so the small bracket holding the light would be BEHIND your bracket hidden....yes?

 

[Devilspawn]

I don't mean to raise more questions, but I guess I have to know for sure. Are saying the fog lights sit flush right now and the driving lights do not? If so, I think I lean towards the fog lights (with a blue cover lens if I'm seeing it right). Also, the black bracket could/would be painted blue if we requested?

 

[slyydrr]

Quick question... I was reading the instructions... either Brian or anyone else who knows... what exactly is meant by "make notches"...?

Anyone??

 

[www.03msp.com]

I would have the bracket (as originally designed) be to the rear of the plate, but since the driving light is to deep, you will have to move the assembly and light attached towards the front of the car with four 1/2" spacers.

- Brian


side view

lip, spacer, assembly
| |
|====|
| |
| |
| |
|====|
| |

 

[www.03msp.com]

EDIT:

reread the instructions.

EDIT:

I updated them last night.

- Brian

 

[www.03msp.com]

Simply put...

Fog light lens is 2/8" distance from rear lens to front of plate (was flush, but couldn't adjust, raised it a bit so you can adjust light up/down) but brackets are behind the plate.

Driving light is 3/4" distance from front of lens to front of plate with brackets on front of plate (visible).

- Brian

 

[slyydrr]

REREAD THE INSTRUCTIONS. I updated them last night.

- Brian

Whoa, relax man... I was simply asking again as no one had replied to me the first time... I thought it was overlooked, and seeing as I looked at the instructions again yesterday midday I figured it wouldn't have changed... And even then, they're still not very informative as to what purpose the "notching" serves... that's what I'm after. But the attitude man, I don't know where it's coming from, but I wouldn't suggest taking it out on a promising customer...

 

[www.03msp.com]

So sorry. I apologize. I didn't mean to have the CAPS as "yelling", rather restating to look at the instructions again. There will always be a critic of some sorts and people without the "engineering" metaility. No issues.

As an explaination of "notching". Notching, or known as cutting away the inner portions of the lip, accomodates the brackets/screws, and for the driving light, diameter of four inches. The inner lip is not four inches, therefore you need to "clear some room" to make these lights fit. Again, the purpose is to cram as much light in there as possible. Four inches is max. You could always use our assemblies with smaller 3 or 3.5" lights and have no inner clearance issues.

- Brian

 

[slyydrr]

Thanks... so pretty much just cut cut cut! About the caps, no explanation needed... its cool. I'm excited to order these badboys, which I will be doing shortly, seeing as the final version is in. Great work on an excellent product, again.

 

[www.03msp.com]

Yes, cut, but I didn't like the word "cut", because technically a cut just makes a mark in it, and "cut it out" people say "what", so I said notch, gave it a picture, because "notch" is technically a square cut-out. You could also take the plate without the light on the inside, and trace the inner circle edges and dremel it that way as well! Engineering hat off.

Guys - help me out here, please.

- Brian

 

[Bijou-MP5]

I'm just glad that zmzmp5 is making this kit for us.

I'm getting msp liip soon and I would need these babies anyway.

otherwise...it's too much pain for me to making custom kit by myself with no skills~

infact, he was the first one who put piaa40 driving fog light on his mp5 and mine he knows what he's doing.

 

[kevducridr]

Paypal sent 01/28/04 3:10pm, can't wait to get these intalled. Thanks again Brian for the hard work and dedication to the MSP'ers.