Zoom zoom BoOm x2.

lol. I felt bad for the guy.

Hindsite is 20/20.

I was "bragging" about how I pegged the speedo the night before the dyno day on the way there. Also was bragging that I wasn't even close to flooring it while doing so. Guess what doesn't come on if it isn't damn close to being floored.....damn.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
lol. I felt bad for the guy.

Hindsite is 20/20.

I was "bragging" about how I pegged the speedo the night before the dyno day on the way there. Also was bragging that I wasn't even close to flooring it while doing so. Guess what doesn't come on if it isn't damn close to being floored.....damn.
How do the extra injectors know when to fire, TPS or boost, or can it be set to maintain an AFR ratio by closed loop?
 
anarchistchiken said:
Crack is bad, mmk?

According to this formula, a Civic making 150 hp at 4000 rpms is making 196 lb-ft? In a honda motor? at 4000 RPMs? bulls***!

This forumla is ******* idiotic and you should be banned for even thinking about posting it here.

You're a ******* idiot. STFU.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
Something slipped according to the dyno operator. Thats why it stopped sampling. The datalogg made it look much more dramatic than that. After I watched it was apparent that this finsihed the motor off, but it must have been hurt before.

I just got off the phone with Nick..... I am undecided still in what I want to do.

You shouldn't see an upward spike on slippage.. something jammed or really slammed the pistons down to generate such a high peak torque.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
The mechanic that let me borrow his compression gauge at the dyno shop will attest to my oil pump being fine. lol

I take it you did spray oil then? otherwise I'm not following you... I didn't think you ruptured the motor externally anywhere.
 
Focus said:
D'ont look at the picture, just listen. The last second as idgrasil says, she's detonating BAD.

Huh. I'll trust you on that one, as she doesn't sound like any detonation I've ever heard... Everything sounds perfectly clean until that last half second when it goes "brrrrrrp" Then it just sounds like bad firing... it may be that because you are hearing so much exhaust that it masks it... I'm more use to direct listening recordings of it... and I'll never get it in my car because of the JandS.... And the other videos extra posted on this forum when people popped their motors it was also very distinct and clear that it was detonating... that one just sounds WAY funky to me.
 
TurfBurn said:
Was that really necessary so late in the game after we all went to town on him and he apologized?

Yes, I deserve it.


Is it just me, or does it seem like the tach might have broken? It stops at around 6,000, but it stops really really fast. It doesn't move at all from the point where it stops until the operator lets off, then it goes back down. Might be something worth checking out.
 
TurfBurn said:
Was that really necessary so late in the game after we all went to town on him and he apologized?

I replied before I saw the apology. Regardless, I'm sick of people on this forum mixing arrogance with ignorance. I'm glad he came around and realized his error, but he should have never posted what he did in the first place.
 
Kooldino said:
I replied before I saw the apology. Regardless, I'm sick of people on this forum mixing arrogance with ignorance. I'm glad he came around and realized his error, but he should have never posted what he did in the first place.

Sure, and I realize that... but hostility from the rest of us MOST of the time doesn't do any good, and that is why so many threads degrade and get locked. There are a lot of other ways to deal with that situation. That's all. Because someone is a complete ass doesn't mean anyone else (and myself most certainly included!) needs to be a jerk back. If we all stepped away from our flame throwers there'd be less drama all around on here.

Back OnT... Is that sound at the end clearly detonation to everyone but me? I've heard plenty of exhaust notes and the like similar to that without it being detonation... It just doesn't seem "characteristic" to ME, but obviously Focus and Igdrasil who are both experienced and intelligent guys are sure that it is, so I certainly don't doubt it.. just curious why it seems so unrecognizable or if the speakers I'm hearing it through are sucking that much.
 
anarchistchiken said:
Is it just me, or does it seem like the tach might have broken? It stops at around 6,000, but it stops really really fast. It doesn't move at all from the point where it stops until the operator lets off, then it goes back down. Might be something worth checking out.

He's got a point. I don't think the tach "broke", but clearly, something was limiting the revs. This looks almost exactly like my problem from this winter...

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1556136&postcount=35
 
TurfBurn said:
Back OnT... Is that sound at the end clearly detonation to everyone but me? I've heard plenty of exhaust notes and the like similar to that without it being detonation...

my car made that same sound when my plugs were bad and my car was around that RPM and the car would jerk. but then again i have never heard detation before so i dont know.
 
TurfBurn said:
Sure, and I realize that... but hostility from the rest of us MOST of the time doesn't do any good, and that is why so many threads degrade and get locked. There are a lot of other ways to deal with that situation. That's all. Because someone is a complete ass doesn't mean anyone else (and myself most certainly included!) needs to be a jerk back. If we all stepped away from our flame throwers there'd be less drama all around on here.

I understand, but I've "turned the other cheek" countless times, even when people were making inaccurate, ridiculous attacks on me. I'm just sick of turning the other cheek, and I'm sick of the drama. If you start unnecessary drama, I'm just not going to tolerate it and be a nice guy about it anymore. I have to deal with 10x more drama than you probably see on this forum. And 90% of it is from the same 6 or so people. I'm past the point of being a nice guy about it.

Anyway, we're beating a dead horse. He realized he was wrong, and hopefully next time he disagrees with something, he questions it in a different way, without starting drama.

Back on topic. (eekdance)
 
1338 said:
my car made that same sound when my plugs were bad and my car was around that RPM and the car would jerk. but then again i have never heard detation before so i dont know.
Yup. Check out that link i posted...there's a video in it that I took. Over the past few years, I've had a similar thing happen to my motors when something wasn't igniting correctly.

It also does a SIMILAR thing when yo're running too rich. But it's a "softer" breakup. It's hard to explain.
 
I think I have to agree with Turf. Now that I've listened to it, I don't think it would be easy to hear detonation over the exhaust and turbo anyway. Of course, that doesn't mean that there wasn't detonation.

Now here's a theory on the weird part at 6k rpm:
The speedo stayed with the tach, so I don't really see any slipping. Think about this though: when the pistons broke, a lot of the compression/power would blow by them, so it would pretty much instantly stop making more power, which might explain the stop at 6k rpm.

This is just an idea, but I want to know what you think.
 
Kooldino said:
It also does a SIMILAR thing when yo're running too rich. But it's a "softer" breakup. It's hard to explain.

Yep, it's a muffled pop rather than a sharp snap. It's because the flame fron is moving at a slower speed rather than an extremely high speed.
 
Is your car equipped with ABS? Can a tranny with a speedo gear break at the diff and still give a speedo reading?
 
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