Yokohama vs. Kumho

[drumsbeloud]

does anyone have Yokohama AVS ES100 or Kumho Ecsa Supra 712 rubber on their cars? if so, do you have anything good/bad to say about the tires (specifically treadwear and ride quality)?

 

[SpicyMSP]

this is so funny, I am looking for new tires.. And the two canidates are:

Kumho MX's and
yokahama EVS ES100

the only reason I would go for the Yokahamas is because it would cost me about $120 less

 

[Stealth5]

rappers mention yokohamas alot in their songs, must be good

 

[cbcbd]

I have the Yokohamas. But for only 1K miles. Ride is great, not noisy or anything, feels good, too early to notice tread wear.

 

[1sty]

I just put the ES100's on my MP3, they are decent but the dunlops 9000 could definitly rule their ass.

 

[cbcbd]

I just put the ES100's on my MP3, they are decent but the dunlops 9000 could definitly rule their ass.

yeah, for their price they better
that's why I went with the Yokos. still quality and it's not like I'm taking it to the track.

 

[blynzoo]

I am still in love with the 9000's.

 

[1sty]

my SP9000s mostly bald were better dry handling then the Yokos.

 

[1sty]

I am still in love with the 9000's.

I just couldn't afford the extra $150 for the set.

 

[cbcbd]

I just couldn't afford the extra $150 for the set.

exactly, same here - plus, no one around the area had them in stock so I just kind of gave up and figured I'd save myself some serious $$

 

[melicha8]

I was just in the market for both these tires as well. I will tell you what Rishie told me on the phone. He said he didn't like the Ecsta's and reccommended I go with the EVS100's. They look better anyway. I ultimately went with the Spec-2's which have a higher tread weat rating.

 

[HoustonP5]

Tirerack has a test against the Kuhmo 712 and the Sumitomo HTR ZII.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testResultsModel.jsp?tireModel=AVS+ES100&tireMake=Yokohama

I'm happy with my Yokie's so far.

 

[impact]

I personaly have Yokohama Parada Spec 2 and those tires are bad ass, haven' had any touble with it. I can take the car on twisty roads and even if the car kicks out going about 85-90 mph it is still controlable. The tires grab the road good. As far as the ES100 I have brought it a few sets for my friends and they love it. Awsome wet traction. I would recomend yokohama to any one. If you want to get crazy go and buy som AO32R's or some Advan Neova's.

 

[ICURWeTodid]

I just put a set of the Kumho 712's on my car and I was a bit suspect of a no-name (well at least to me) tire vs. a well known brand. but since i replaced them at 34k miles (just over a year old) i figured i could try them out and it wouldnt be too long before they were replaced again. i still have the stock wheels - so i stuck with the 195-50-16 size. i think they were ~$280 shipped to my door and another $45 for mount balance etc...

after a couple hundred miles i can say i like them. dry traction is pretty good - i didnt really notice a difference between these and the dunlops.. there may be one but i truly havent driven enough to tell. wet traction seems to be better than stocks - or at least better than the stocks on my car at time of change (6/32 tread left on the front - a bit less on the rear).

The main concern was the reports of noise in some reviews. i havent noticed much difference - so i dont know if people installed them not realizing they are directional tires - but once im going i dont notice much more noise than the dunlops. ive taken a few corners at decent speed and can say they hold quite well and it isnt as easy to break them loose when it rains (just normal driving - not trying to spin tires - any jackass can peel out in the rain). but its hard to complain when the set is less than one tire for my other car.

i would (so far) buy these again

 

[drumsbeloud]

well, from what i've read here and in reviews elsewhere, i don't think i'll be going with the kumhos. between treadwear issues, and excessive noise, i'm gonna focus on the yokohamas. since tire life is an important feature for me, i think i'll shell out the extra bit of cash and go for the 300-rated spec-2's....still taking comments/suggestions though.

 

[iON Performance]

Another tire you guys may want to consider in this price range would be the Falken FK451's.

The only tires we'd recommend to our clients are:
Falken FK451's
Yoko AVS Sports/ES100's/AVS-i
Pirelli P-Zero Rosso
Bridgestone Potenza SO-2PP/SO-3's
Goodyear GS-C
Michelin Piolt Sport
Continental Contact Sport

 

[drumsbeloud]

iON, could you elaborate on your reasoning--specifically for the Falkens and the yokos? also, why do you not recommend the spec-2's? i appreciate your help (in advance)!

 

[EXA4DRIVER]

For an entry level tire, both are actually not bad. Especially for the prices that they are offered. You might want to check out the Hankook Ventus. This is also a pretty good tire for the price.

 

[iON Performance]

drumsbeloud - we can fully endores the performance for the Falken tires since we've done both wet & dry track testing at 240km/h+ speeds w/o problems. They are one of the biggest bang for the buck tires available.

In regards to the Yokos, the Parada's are more of a "look" tire then an actual performer. They don't evacuate water as well as the ES100, they don't stick as well in the dry as the AVS Sport or I do.

 

[MinnowGT]

question for ION ?

have you guys tried the Falken Ziex ZE-512s?

I see they have a better treadwear and slightly lower traction.

for ~$30 bucks less they're right in the kumho 712 price range.
but seem to beat it in all categories.