Wtf F1
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anarchistchiken
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That's the call I would make if I were a major F1 team. Why the hell would you fly cars and team members all the way to america just to go around in circles for a few hours?
anarchistchiken said:
you do realize that F1 goes all over the world? not just in europe... china, japan, australia, canada, US, bahrain, turkey...
incase you didn't know all 20 cars started on the grid and they did they're warm up lap before the start and after the lap all the cars (14) on Michelin tires went in to the pits and didn't start the race. apparently the Michelins can't handle the banking in the corners of Indy and the rear left tire blows
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hahahah
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</TD></TR><TR><TD class=articleSubTitle>Red one-two and a Jordan podium as Michelin withdraw</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=articleFeatureCopy>Just six cars took the start at Indianapolis this afternoon after the Michelin teams stood by their threat not to race without an additional chicane ahead of the high-speed Turn 13.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>
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<!-- ArticleBodyStart -->Michelin could not guarantee the safety of their tyres through this corner over a race distance, so instructed their teams not to compete if the track layout was not changed to slow the cars.
The FIA refused the request for a chicane, pointing out several other options available to Michelin. The Michelin teams declined these and jointly decided they would race on the tyres they used in qualifying, but only if the chicane was inserted.
It wasn't. As a result, all cars took to the grid, but the Michelin cars all peeled in at the end of the formation lap, leaving only the Ferraris, Minardis and Jordans to start. Jordan and Minardi had been expected to stand by the Michelin teams.
Ferrari duly won the race, with Michael Schumacher leading until the first pit stops. He lost his lead to team mate Rubens Barrichello for his second stint, but narrowly regained it after emerging just ahead of the Brazilian after his second stop.
Tiago Monteiro clinched his first Formula One podium for Jordan in third, with team mate Narain Karthikeyan fourth. The Minardis of Christijan Albers and Patrick Friesacher completed the finishers.
A joint press release from Michelin and their teams is expected shortly, expressing their regret at having to pull out of the race and explaining their decision.
The Michelin withdrawal followed two tyre failures for Toyota on Friday, one of which led to Ralf Schumacher crashing heavily in Turn 13." - http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3199/740.html</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<!-- ArticleBodyStart -->Michelin could not guarantee the safety of their tyres through this corner over a race distance, so instructed their teams not to compete if the track layout was not changed to slow the cars.The FIA refused the request for a chicane, pointing out several other options available to Michelin. The Michelin teams declined these and jointly decided they would race on the tyres they used in qualifying, but only if the chicane was inserted.
It wasn't. As a result, all cars took to the grid, but the Michelin cars all peeled in at the end of the formation lap, leaving only the Ferraris, Minardis and Jordans to start. Jordan and Minardi had been expected to stand by the Michelin teams.
Ferrari duly won the race, with Michael Schumacher leading until the first pit stops. He lost his lead to team mate Rubens Barrichello for his second stint, but narrowly regained it after emerging just ahead of the Brazilian after his second stop.
Tiago Monteiro clinched his first Formula One podium for Jordan in third, with team mate Narain Karthikeyan fourth. The Minardis of Christijan Albers and Patrick Friesacher completed the finishers.
A joint press release from Michelin and their teams is expected shortly, expressing their regret at having to pull out of the race and explaining their decision.
The Michelin withdrawal followed two tyre failures for Toyota on Friday, one of which led to Ralf Schumacher crashing heavily in Turn 13." - http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3199/740.html</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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Cosidering that the blame can pretty much be placed on the FIA, as the track authorties were more than willing to make the change, they really blew a good oppertunity to get into the American market.
i still watched it, it was amusing watching just 6 cars go around the track, i was seriously thinking about going too, good thing my roomate couldn't get off of work or i'd be really pissed. i think its funny how the commentators talk s*** about Jordan and Minardi. sucks for all the American fans, and the fans that flew in from other places to see this "race" wouldn't be surprised if next year's US Grand Prix isn't held at Indy... if there is another US Grand Prix
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FlyinHawaiian
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I was there. It was horrible. I am ahuge Ferrari fan and go all out for the races, but I cannot be proud of this win, if you want to call it that... I was a farce. While people were throwing s*** on the track, I wept. I am re-watching the race on TiVo and it is very hard to do for me. I am at a loss for words right now, hopefully I will have something later...
Jeff...
F1 will never be the same...
Jeff...
F1 will never be the same...
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Sure it will be. For a lot of people this whole thing probably wasn't even all that surprising. F1 has always been just a huge collection of annoying primadonnas basically...so a result like this is just another comical turn in the soap opera of F1. The past few years in F1 have sucked ASS with it being so damn predictable...so this race is a little disappointing since this year was going pretty decent so far with the Ferarris getting their asses handed to them pretty regularily. Oh well. What makes it even sweeter is that it happened on Tony George's track. He is a weiner with legs so it's great to see his beloved "brickyard" host the worst F1 race in history.
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girth said:
I don't know where you come off with the authority to say what you did but, just wondering: How many races have you attended, and how often do you watch them on TV? The drivers of Formula One are undoubtedly the best tarmac drivers on earth. I qualify that because I think what the rally drivers is equally amazing. Not only that, but for the most part, they are some of the most humble and unpretentious(sp?) athleats out there. I've met many of them, its true. You criticize Ferrari for all of its winningness, but it wasn't as if they ever cheated to get there. They made history, and as a true race fan you should recognize it. It took major rule changes to "give Ferrari their asses" and give advantages to the other teams. I'm really sorry you feel that way about it and hope you realize that I write this in the calmest and unantagonistic of tones.
As to it happening at the brickyard, I now see that you have no feeling for the crew members who labored over the cars this weekend to no avail; the volunteers that the track who, instead of dealing with a friendly, highly enthusiastic crowd, had to deal with a drunken, anygry international crowd who could have blwon up at any minute (what do you think it was like seeing a SWAT team at a Grand Prix?); and the fans such as myself, who swapped shifts with a guy at work, and used one of my hard-earned vacation days to watch 6 cars run the track like a nightmare version of GT4.
I have some great stories for the weekend, but they are completely over shadowed by the events of today. I'd be happy to share them, along with pictures later, but I don't think it's appropriate to do so now. This mess could have been avoided altogether. We'll see what happens, but my previous statements still stand.
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anarchistchiken
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Haha, I'm a douche. I need to watch more speed channel.
yesiownaskyline
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the way espn.com made it out to be was that ferrari was being a bunch of douches. The other driver teams had had something like 9 possible compormises (one being the michelin guys dont even race for points, but for fun and integrity if they added a chickane), but ferrari said no-go...
Oh well, I guess an amazing race stays outta the US next year... hello nascar.
Oh well, I guess an amazing race stays outta the US next year... hello nascar.
yesiownaskyline said:
(Btw: luv your signature man, very well put)
Ferrari stuck it out with all the new rules this year regarding equipment changes through the weekend with little to no complaint as the other teams walked all over their problems namely with Bridgestones' inability to bring the perfect tire to the occasion.
Funny that today none of the other teams could come out and play. I never once this season saw Reuben or Michael come out and ask for a track to be changed to suite the inability of their tires to perform, especially after qualifying.
So all the Michelin clad ladies (in F1) should take a good look in the mirror (all they had to do was try) before they support any of the slander about Ferrari. This is who this whole fiasco is being unjustly blamed on them.
I'm usually for the underdog, but this season in F1 made me feel like the conspiracy against Ferrari is real, and I hope the break-away series is considered, so that real men can play apart from boys and F1 can continue to push the technology envelope with those who can.
Its really like what Peter said on Wind Tunnel tonight, you don't ask the ref on game day to change the dimensions of the field because you came out in the wrong cleats, you explore the limits of your equipment, and if you fail you learn.
Only my 2cents
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i was there and still had alot of fun. yeah it was disapointing that there were only 6 cars running but i got over it. just to be there surrounded by so many other fans and hearing those ferraris rip by us ever minute or so was great. i dont see why a couple of chodes had to be throwin s*** at the track though. the world hates america as it is for being like that and here we are on international television being our typical rednecked selves. very very upsetting.
FlyinHawaiian
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INGREXCO said:
Where were you sitting? I was row 1 in Stand H, right there on turn 1. I'll post a picture of myself from the weekend and maybe you'll have recognized me walking around...
EDIT: Oops, forgot to post, here I am from last year, I dressed the same this year:
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