With CPE Standback do you still need a fuel cut killer

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

omg.
you tune fuel, timing, and boost. just like any other tuner, sure there are still issues with the throttle...but you will have that issue with an MBC as well.

and you can run rich or lean on a MBC, without a tune.

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

what limits power on these cars is not only the throttle position, but more importantly the fuel system wont support this car at WOT...cuz it can't even keep up right now at our limited throttle

 

[laloosh]

omg.
you tune fuel, timing, and boost. just like any other tuner, sure there are still issues with the throttle...but you will have that issue with an MBC as well.

and you can run rich or lean on a MBC, without a tune.

sure you can, its called running out of fuel or not running enough of boost. if you run 17-18psi you will nto run rich or lean. you can 'tune' a mbc as well, all you need is a egt guage or a a/f guage

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

that isn't tuning lol. altering your boost to run at a desired a/f ratio LOL. you alter your fuel and timing to acheive the proper a/f ratio under any desired amount of boost.

 

[laloosh]

which on this car is about 17-18psi cuase the turbo is pretty much s*** after that. yes it is tuning, just because it doenst cost 600 dollar, a wirring harness, and dyno time does not mean its not 'tuning'

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

it my be 'tuning up', but its not tuning lol. thats how i would tune if i was a cheap bastard, who didn't care about my car.

 

[tru-boost]

the fact that the stock turbo poops out at over 18 psi is a factor as well.
a MBC equiped car has PROVEN to make just as much power and be just as fast, so i dont see the debate here. i would like to see a few more MBC cars get dynoed, just so i can see the A/F's. i was all about getting the standback a few weeks ago... i dont even know if i want it now. its the more expensive option.....not to mention there have been 3 MS6's who have blown engines with the standback in the last month !! maybe the A/F and timing control is better off left alone....

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

if thats tuning, then:

with a gt3076 turbo and a MBC, how would you tune your car if you wanted to run 22psi????

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

the fact that the stock turbo poops out at over 18 psi is a factor as well.
a MBC equiped car has PROVEN to make just as much power and be just as fast, so i dont see the debate here. i would like to see a few more MBC cars get dynoed, just so i can see the A/F's. i was all about getting the standback a few weeks ago... i dont even know if i want it now. its the more expensive option.....not to mention there have been 3 MS6's who have blown engines with the standback in the last month !! maybe the A/F and timing control is better off left alone....

on a stock turbo! thats all i'm saying, you can't continue to upgrade with a MBC. you eventually need a REAL TUNING SOLUTION. thats all i'm sayin bro

 

[laloosh]

now your chaning turbos, so you need tuning. Stock turbo does not need it.

As to all thes ms6 guys blowing up...where are the links?

 

[tru-boost]

you cant do that with the standback either.....
the fuel system cant do it !!

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

if thats tuning, then:

with a gt3076 turbo and a MBC, how would you tune your car if you wanted to run 22psi????

(pow)

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

you cant do that with the standback either.....
the fuel system cant do it !!

hahahaha -1 to that.. it sucks so bad

but you can do it with a standback tune!, you'll just hit fuel cut ;(

 

[laloosh]

on a stock turbo! thats all i'm saying, you can't continue to upgrade with a MBC. you eventually need a REAL TUNING SOLUTION. thats all i'm sayin bro

a laugh at people who get big turbos and make a whopping 340whp. you can do that on the stocker and be just as fast. There is no point to big turbos, tunning untill the fuel pump issue is resolved....once again this is just my opinion/route

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

i'm not saying its not a power solution, so just don't take me the wrong way. i'd just like to point out, that a MBC isn't as good as a standback if you are wanting to safely alter boost levels.

 

[tru-boost]

now your chaning turbos, so you need tuning. Stock turbo does not need it.

As to all thes ms6 guys blowing up...where are the links?

its on the other forum you'll have to look it wont let me link it here.....

http://**********************/index.php?topic=92288.0

 

[laloosh]

umm how did some1 manage to blow a turbo on less than stock boost? you cant even lower the boost with a mbc below stock. The other guys all had standbacks? Wow that pretty much sucks.

 

[tru-boost]

i was thinking the same thing....you cant reduce boost below the factory setting with a MBC ?!?! but yes.... the standback is not gaining any credibility with these kind of results.

 

[MS6mike]

no you dont!

 

[ssinstaller]

i was thinking the same thing....you cant reduce boost below the factory setting with a MBC ?!?! but yes.... the standback is not gaining any credibility with these kind of results.

I haven't seen any motors blow up with the standback installed, and I'm on the other forum fairly often. I have seen one or two that blew up after the standback was removed to take the car in for service...