Why premium in our mp3???

JcsMP3

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Ok I am just wondering if anyone can tell me why we have a sticker on our gas tank door that says premium fuel recommended. I know it's not a requirement but recommened none the less. I know that premium fuel should only be used when you have a turbo or sueprcharger setup or advanced firing timing from the spark plugs. I know the difference between the different octane levels I did alot of research on this before.

But why does Mazda recommend a slower burning fuel, do we have the advanced timing for the firing?

Jc
 
premium is actually the best that 4 bangers can use and it burns faster not slower ;) cleans the engine more and has less alcohal
 
Originally posted by gonzoATX:
<STRONG>premium is actually the best that 4 bangers can use and it burns faster not slower ;) cleans the engine more and has less alcohal</STRONG>

Dude, please.. I know what I am talking about here. It's slower burning fuel. NOS burns really really fast.. that's why you can have advanced ignition timing and NOS in the same set up. Therefore you run a slower burning gas for a car that has advanced ignition timing. Regular protege and P5's are designed to run at it's peak with lower octane fuel... I am asking why did they change this all of a sudden on the mp3's

Jc
 
The type of gasoline to use is one of the most misunderstood areas of vehicle ownership. I am going to offer some ideas that I hope will save you a few bucks on gasoline.
The first rule of thumb is that higher octane gasoline is not necessarily better for your vehicle.

WHAT IS OCTANE RATING?

Octane, by definition, is the resistance to burn or detonation. The higher the rating, the slower the burn when ignited during the compression burn cycle of the piston. The higher octane allows for better control of burning for high compression engines. So we want to match the correct octane rating of the gasoline to the engine design to
ensure complete burning of the gasoline by the engine for maximum fuel economy and clean emissions.

I THOUGHT GASOLINE WITH HIGHER OCTANE REDUCED ENGINE KNOCK?

It did in older engines using carburetors to regulate air/gas mix They cannot as accurately regulate the air/fuel mix going into the engine as a computerized fuel injector. Carburetors need adjustment, as a part of regular maintenance, to keep the air/fuel mix as accurate as possible. So many times, these adjustments were not made regularly causing too much fuel to be mixed with the air. When this happened the gasoline would not burn completely soaking into carbon deposits. This would cause a premature ignition of the gasoline due to the intense heat in the engine cylinder creating "engine knock." When this happened, people would change to the higher
octane/slower burning gasoline to resist the premature burn, thus minimizing the knocking problem. And it worked.
Good solution.

However, since the middle to late 80’s, engines are designed to use fuel injectors with computers to accurately control the air/fuel mix under all types of temperature and environment concerns. However the accuracy of the fuel injectors and computers is based on using the recommended gasoline for that engine.

Most cars are designed to burn regular unleaded fuels with an octane rating of 87. If the vehicle needs a higher octane rating of 89-93, there is documentation in the owner’s manual, as well as possibly under the fuel gauge and by the fuel fill hole. Usually you will see this rating for high performance engines only.

WHAT IF I PREFER TO USE GASOLINE WITH HIGHER OCTANE RATINGS?

You can, but there are no real benefits, other than the gasoline manufacturers making more money off of you. When you use a fuel with a higher octane rating than your vehicle requires, you can send this unburned fuel into
the emissions system. It can also collect in the catalytic converter. When you over stress any system, it can malfunction or not do what it was designed to do properly. In the early 90's, an early warning symptom was a rotten egg smell from the tailpipe. Easy fix, go back to using regular 87 octane gasoline. The rude odor usually
disappears after several tanks of gasoline.

DOESN'T HIGHER OCTANE GASOLINE HAVE MORE CLEANING ADDITIVES THAT ARE GOOD FOR
MY ENGINE?

No. Government regulations require that all gasoline contain basically the same amount of additives to clean the injectors and valves. The only differences are the type to help create the different octane ratings. All gasoline burns at the same rate, it is the additives that create the different octane ratings for the different types of engines.

REFORMULATED GASOLINE

In some major cities with air pollution problems, reformulated gasoline is required. It is an oxygenated fuel, that burns really clean but can slightly lower fuel economy and engine performance. If your engine is really dirty with
carbon deposits, it will also cause pinging or pre-mature burn. In these types of situations, you may want to consider stepping up to the next grade of gasoline.

The bottom line is to use the type of gasoline recommended for your engine. In some cases, like towing, or other stresses on the engine, you may find a higher octane fuel helpful.

I got this from http://theserviceadvisor.com/octane.htm

so all credit to them:

[ 01-10-2002: Message edited by: Jays2000ZX3 ]
 
That is just in reply to GonzoATX about Octane.

NOW, about why they recommend Higher octane gas, MUST be since they advanced the timming, how much, I dunno.

Anyone know??

[ 01-10-2002: Message edited by: Jays2000ZX3 ]
 
my bad i was misunderstood since i did post it early this morning... :eek:
 

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