i think if something like that happened our community would pull together.
i know the p5 guys would.
But things like this are happening and the only thing most are doing are providing criticism! IE: Motor mount Failure, just read the thread that darksun put up. The lack of knowledge by Mazda reps, and negligent work that has been done. Blaming modifications non-related to issues as an excuse to not cover work.
The speed3 is a bench mark for Mazda right now and we are kinda getting the shaft, Alot of us are afraid to post our mods for fear of Mazda trying to pin the blame on us. I am just shocked that more are not fired up about this!
Darksun only had an intake.Oh cry me a river already... you REALLY think the BMW community isnt self centered?
Kinda hard to stand up for a fellow Mazda driver who has modded the hell out of the car and then cries foul when dealer wont cover warranty... and has the balls to call the rest of us self centered... news for you there is something called: "taking responsability for your actions" - you knew damn well you ran the risk of voiding warranty when you added the mods and that there was the possibility of getting the shaft even if it wasnt related... I may feel for you but Im not going to cause a firestorm because you lost the gamble..
Flame away if you want but WTF do you expect from horribly self centered crowd that we are....
Flame away if you want but WTF do you expect from horribly self centered crowd that we are....
Oh cry me a river already... you REALLY think the BMW community isnt self centered?
Kinda hard to stand up for a fellow Mazda driver who has modded the hell out of the car and then cries foul when dealer wont cover warranty... and has the balls to call the rest of us self centered... news for you there is something called: "taking responsability for your actions" - you knew damn well you ran the risk of voiding warranty when you added the mods and that there was the possibility of getting the shaft even if it wasnt related... I may feel for you but Im not going to cause a firestorm because you lost the gamble..
Flame away if you want but WTF do you expect from horribly self centered crowd that we are....
LOL you are a self centered bastard, but you are right...
If it were me that lost the warranty then yeah id be pissed too and maybe looking for some sympathy, but nothin this community can do besides that. Now id someone here picked up the ms3 for $15k brand new thanks to a dealer being greedy on ebay, hoping for a big sale and getting burned? Well damn right I would do something to help the buyer if i could....
ok his case is definitely extreme... he is getting ripped off, how would you suggest we help him? Im seriously curious cuz i have no idea what we as a community could do to convince Mazda NA to cover his repairs. I agree with you that he is being ripped off, but us telling mazda that all of the modded car owners are still being covered under warranty will probably have the opposite effect you are looking for...mazda will still screw darksun and then have its dealerships crack down even harder on mod related repairs.
Looks like the BMW guys really come through for one of their own. Our community is horribly self centered! Flame away after reading!
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/03/bmw-dealerships-pats-itself-on-back-for-delivering-m3-sedan-to-e/
I suggest that we start a fire list for all owners like ourselves and Darksun and start putting together a list of dealerships who have had cases of voiding warranties. Each would be on a per case basis, but would be great info for someone reading it and looking to get their car serviced. This list would also include information about bad work or damage caused by bad workmanship.
In darksuns case, I would be more than happy to start forwarding information to various places such as motortrend.com and Autoblog.com in an attempt to make an example of the rip off job they are trying to give Darksun. However, with us divided and taking a "oh well, pay to play, Whatever" attitude we will accomplish nothing.
The point that I am trying to make with this rant is most of us bought the speed3 or speed6 because we are enthusiast and wanted a spacious car along with performance and reliability so far we have performance and spaciousness. The issue I have is the lack of quality that Mazda is trying to push off on the average customer like Darksun and his intake and the other fellow that installed a boost guage, which are very simple harmless modifications. Now most of you will be lucky enough to never face this, but the point is a fellow person much like ourselves is going through it right now and since it could have been anyone of us, maybe we owe just a little bit of time to it. I have personally written autoblog.com in hopes of starting something. I would emplore more of you to do the same.
We agree that darksun and others have been treated unfairly so I dont understand why more of us are not standing up and trying to bring more attention to this matter. Can you imagine if more motor mounts start to break, would any of you with 08 or 8.5 be satisfied with "cant cover it, engine rocked too hard due to intake"?
Tell me your not serious...(gtfo)
going against Mazda NA is ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT different than going against a stupid dealership...
Every manufacturer will be accused of sub par workmanship at some point. At least one dealer of each brand of car will be accused of being cheats, thieves, asshats etc.. Each and every person on this forum will try to, or will, pass off sub par work in their job at one point or another.
Get a clue!
An advertising "faux pas" has nothing to do with the manufacturer.
Different mods to cars are handled differently by individual dealerships. Welcome to the world where we have differences of opinion regardless of the basis of that opinion.
You must have a difficult time following what I have previously posted, let me simplify it for you in order for easy consumption! Let me break it down this way! Follow closely Maestro.
1. Motor mount comply completely breaks in a sports car (or car sold as a sportier performance vehicle)
2. numerous cases of this have occurred and even made national headlines due to the severity of the poor workmanship.
3. Darksun, along with others have experienced this truly outrageous mishap
4 . Darksun goes to dealership who sees the scope of work, but also sees the intake he installed and decides to blame the engine dropping out of the car completely on that part which subsequently voids his warranty all together.
Now here is the million dollar question! Should Darksun have to pay for these damages? Would a simple intake allow the engine enough torque to shear itself cleanly off of a mount?
Heres another idea, poor quality part from Mazda along with possibly a mild mannered person (no offense Darksun) and this dealership wants to Void the entire warranty. Does this sound right to you?
There is opinion and then there is fact and manufacturers/dealership responsibility. Welcome to that real world Maestro!
