Why all the hate for the BOSE in the MS3 GT?

speed3shon said:
im pretty happy with the bose in the ms3...

it is a decent upgrade to the non-bose... and it isnt that much extra considering everything else you get with the GT package...

i was big into car audio with my truck, and somewhat with my audi... but im out of it now, so this bose does just fine...

that's exactly how I feel. The bose will be more than enough for me. *maybe* I might add a small sub but that won't be for a long time.
 
I just installed a 300w Fosgate amp and JL Audio 10w3v2 in a small, sealed box and it in conjunction with the stock Bose system sounds clean crisp and tight. I am very pleased with the audio in the car now. The stock sub is trash.
 
My Mach 460 in my GT sounds better in all honesty. The MS3 does sound better than the stereo in my focus, but not by too much. The reason I'm unimpressed with it is lack of MP3 playback via the head unit's CD deck. Completely worthless to me, especially when it's an integrated system like it is.
 
CTGrey02 said:
My Mach 460 in my GT sounds better in all honesty. The MS3 does sound better than the stereo in my focus, but not by too much. The reason I'm unimpressed with it is lack of MP3 playback via the head unit's CD deck. Completely worthless to me, especially when it's an integrated system like it is.

(iagree) The lack of native MP3 support is my biggest complaint as well. Sure, it's got an AUX port, but you get unwanted noise/ distortion in the sound. It's not a deal-breaker since people don't buy this car for the sound, but it's still a huge disappointment for those of us who enjoy music.
 
It'd cost just as much to buy the head unit that plays MP3's as it would an Ipod that can hold my music collection and the damned cabling that allows it to work through the steering wheel remote and charge at the same time. Bitter about that.
 
CTGrey02 said:
It'd cost just as much to buy the head unit that plays MP3's as it would an Ipod that can hold my music collection and the damned cabling that allows it to work through the steering wheel remote and charge at the same time. Bitter about that.

I'd change my headunit in a heartbeat. Oh wait... it's intergrated! >_< (bitter X 10)
 
CTGrey02 said:
It'd cost just as much to buy the head unit that plays MP3's as it would an Ipod that can hold my music collection and the damned cabling that allows it to work through the steering wheel remote and charge at the same time. Bitter about that.

well, I think it's about time I buy an Ipod anyway lol.
 
regardless of what anyone thinks about the bose system, it's still WAY better than the non-bose s***... absolutely gutless and NOTHING on any range at all... only reason why you want that pile of s*** when you buy the car is if you're going to be putting in an aftermarket headunit.... I'm NOT because I don't care to spend the money, void warranties, and disable certain functionalities (such as the clock, temp display etc), so I'll stick to the bose s***
 
Hikaru9 said:
I'd change my headunit in a heartbeat. Oh wait... it's intergrated! >_< (bitter X 10)

I meant to the other integrated head unit they sell for 4-500 bucks from Mazda. They make one that plays MP3's for our cars, it just wasn't an option.
 
Anyone who has perspective knows...

94jedi said:
I've been into car audio and modifying cars for about 15 years now (used to be MECP cert) so I know a good system when I hear one....

The BOSE is fairly decent as far as upgraded OEM systems go. sure it lacks some bottom end grunt but it's nothing that can't be fixed with a single 8 or 10" sub. for the price of the car and the overall value, I think the BOSE stereo is great. I guess if you're looking for window shattering bass then it leaves alot to be desired but if you want clean clean crisp sound and don't want to hassle with aftermarket components, the BOSE seems to do the job just fine.

Am I missing something? seems like all the data on BOSE is negative.

Audio is a very personal thing. When you factor in the recording, the type of music, your ears and your mood every system will sound different. Personal preference also plays a part.

I've listened to the Bose system and it sounds fine for listening to music at sane levels. You will be disappointed if you expect bass that will punch a hole through your chest or dynamics that will raise the roof. It's a $25,000 car after all with a killer engine, killer suspension, killer interior design and tons of features. It also well screwed together. I don't know what you guys expect?For the money and the overall performance your getting I think it's a well-balanced system.
 
so the BOSE 6 disc in dash unit on the 07 MS3 GT that I just ordered doesn't play mp3's?
 
Doesn't play MP3's and in my experience burned CD's. Sucks huh? There's another stereo they sell that you can order so use that in negotiations. Perhaps you can get it swapped out at a discount.
 
What type of options?

CTGrey02 said:

Adding options to cars costs money from design to manufacturer. It also complicates test. The more combinations the more money and time it takes to test.

Mazda pays Bose to design and implement a car audio system. The more system choices/configurations Mazda asks for, the more bottom-line cost goes into the car. Cost also come in the form of development. Adding extra configurations adds time, which translates to cost. There's cost in the parts kept on hand, cost in the floor space used to house parts and cost in the factory to change the line when a different configuration is built.

Mazda budgets in how much of an "Audio System" they can afford in any design. The Bose system in the 3 no doubt was designed to a cost.

It may seem easy to "Add Options" but there are repercussions for every button or widget added from the initial development process to final factory assembly.
 
CTGrey02 said:
Doesn't play MP3's and in my experience burned CD's. Sucks huh?


98% of the CD's I have in my car are burned and work 100% of the time. Might just be the type of media you are using.
 
Antonio DiMarco said:
Adding options to cars costs money from design to manufacturer. It also complicates test. The more combinations the more money and time it takes to test.

Mazda pays Bose to design and implement a car audio system. The more system choices/configurations Mazda asks for, the more bottom-line cost goes into the car. Cost also come in the form of development. Adding extra configurations adds time, which translates to cost. There's cost in the parts kept on hand, cost in the floor space used to house parts and cost in the factory to change the line when a different configuration is built.

Mazda budgets in how much of an "Audio System" they can afford in any design. The Bose system in the 3 no doubt was designed to a cost.

It may seem easy to "Add Options" but there are repercussions for every button or widget added from the initial development process to final factory assembly.

You have a good point, but you're also completely missing the point of this conversation.

What CTGrey is saying is that Mazda already has the exact same Bose system that plays MP3s. $400~500 option that was never available even as an option even though they had them available. Your argument about extra configuration is null because Mazda already has them built for our cars.
 
Antonio DiMarco said:
Adding options to cars costs money from design to manufacturer. It also complicates test. The more combinations the more money and time it takes to test.

Mazda pays Bose to design and implement a car audio system. The more system choices/configurations Mazda asks for, the more bottom-line cost goes into the car. Cost also come in the form of development. Adding extra configurations adds time, which translates to cost. There's cost in the parts kept on hand, cost in the floor space used to house parts and cost in the factory to change the line when a different configuration is built.

Mazda budgets in how much of an "Audio System" they can afford in any design. The Bose system in the 3 no doubt was designed to a cost.

It may seem easy to "Add Options" but there are repercussions for every button or widget added from the initial development process to final factory assembly.

Your also assuming that I wouldn't have paid it. I would have bought this car if it was 3k more. I'll try burning some different cd's.
 
Antonio DiMarco said:
It's a $25,000 car after all

My last car was around $22,000 and came with a Monsoon audio system that is one of the best quality (not supper bassy , no subwoofer) car audio systems installed from a factory I have heard. Although the rest of the car fell apart (VW) the stereo from Monsoon is amazing.

I hate the fact I have a BOSE system as they are way overpriced for the quality speakers they produce. It is like buy Monster brand cables in Best Buy/CC and pay $75 for a $20 cable. The Monster is not a bad cable but you can get much better for less money than Monster charges. Same goes for BOSE.

My Uncle is a BOSE fan but also has a Monsoon system in his Buick and is amazed how bad the Bose sounds in the car.

While I do not need a supper bass system that shakes every bolt loose in the car, I like quality and feel that it is not there. Any volume over 12 and the system sounds like crap.

Remember BOSE spends more money in marketing than all other speaker brand companies combined. If any are interested in a BOSE story you can read it here
 
i'm content with the bose. its not super amazing, but its all i need because i dont listen to my music that loud
 

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