Have to say I think the MSP is great. I got mine with 20k on it for $13400. I put a vibrant exhaust, custommsp intercooler, B&M short shifter, and an upgraded clutch in the car. Cost about 2k more. So for about 16k I got a reliable, sporty looking car that gets me 26mpg in the city 34 on the highway, handles almost as well as my old MR2 Turbo did, has plenty of power, great interior, killer stereo, carries my wife and child, and still gets compliments from strangers almost everyday. I think the MSP is a very well balanced car that just needs to be taken care of and it will be alot of fun for along time.