Which Mazdaspeed?
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buhtcheeks
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would it add on to the length of your payments? if you already have a couple years or so under your belt, but would have to add 5 more yrs on, now that wouldn't make much sense. they'd just be in ur pockets for a longer time. whats ur car worth? is it the same as what they are offering the ms3 for? what kind of warranty are they offering? look at it as buy'n a new car while trade'n yours in...
haha no one wants the uglies. don't be fooled by the new car smell! really though, absolutely do the math and treat as if you were pricing a new ms3 and offering yours as trade. long term cost of ownership etc...also looking at that damn front fascia every day. If you live in snowsville...I'm betting you'll miss the AWD...
buhtcheeks
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it is an ugly ass front end, always smiling at you. mazda should be ashamed of themselves. they better update the style'n real soon, or my next wagon/hatch will be the imprezza wrx...
Get a nice used, low mileage '09 and avoid the grinning grill and save some money.
Seriously, though, it's all in the math. Never, I repeat, never let a dealer talk you into just taking your car and extending your monthly payments to put you in a new one. That's almost always the worst deal possible.
You want to know your present car's value. You are blind otherwise. Use Kelly Blue Book or NADA Used Car Buyer's guide. Be honest with yourself about its condition. Then hold that info to yourself for the end of the negotiations. Get the dealer invoice info from Consumer's Report. You can do that on-line for just a few bucks. That way you know the initial markup the dealer has. He will also get some incentives, but that is beyond this discussion. Follow Consumer Reports directions on dealing.
Negotiate with the dealer without mentioning any trade in at all. Get them down to their lowest discount BEFORE you even bring up your present car. Then, find out what they will allow for your present ride as trade in and compare that with the trade in value in Kelly or NADA. That's the way to see what kind of deal you are really getting. Chances are that you can get close to book trade in and get close to or even below dealer invoice if you time things right.
Only then should you move the discussion to monthly payments. Know what your bottom line, drive it away cost, including tax is going to be. Then explore interest rates and length of note, which will, of course, vary depending on what the market conditions are and what your credit rating turns out to be.
Dealers are hungry now. Cars are sitting on lots a long time. Don't be afraid to walk away. Don't ever let the dealer know you really like a specific car. Keep talking about Evo's and Subies. Be skeptical about the color, even if it's the one you REALLY want. I shopped 3 different Mazdaspeed dealers in three states before finding the best deal. Don't go for any dealer add-ons or other tricks that change the sticker price. I repeat: They are hungry. Take your time.
Seriously, though, it's all in the math. Never, I repeat, never let a dealer talk you into just taking your car and extending your monthly payments to put you in a new one. That's almost always the worst deal possible.
You want to know your present car's value. You are blind otherwise. Use Kelly Blue Book or NADA Used Car Buyer's guide. Be honest with yourself about its condition. Then hold that info to yourself for the end of the negotiations. Get the dealer invoice info from Consumer's Report. You can do that on-line for just a few bucks. That way you know the initial markup the dealer has. He will also get some incentives, but that is beyond this discussion. Follow Consumer Reports directions on dealing.
Negotiate with the dealer without mentioning any trade in at all. Get them down to their lowest discount BEFORE you even bring up your present car. Then, find out what they will allow for your present ride as trade in and compare that with the trade in value in Kelly or NADA. That's the way to see what kind of deal you are really getting. Chances are that you can get close to book trade in and get close to or even below dealer invoice if you time things right.
Only then should you move the discussion to monthly payments. Know what your bottom line, drive it away cost, including tax is going to be. Then explore interest rates and length of note, which will, of course, vary depending on what the market conditions are and what your credit rating turns out to be.
Dealers are hungry now. Cars are sitting on lots a long time. Don't be afraid to walk away. Don't ever let the dealer know you really like a specific car. Keep talking about Evo's and Subies. Be skeptical about the color, even if it's the one you REALLY want. I shopped 3 different Mazdaspeed dealers in three states before finding the best deal. Don't go for any dealer add-ons or other tricks that change the sticker price. I repeat: They are hungry. Take your time.
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The think is I've got friends in carsales my car will be bought at a wholesale price of 12000 I owe 15500 the mazdaspeed3 is 2010 brand new they can't get rid of it I owe 48 months left on my car if i get speed3 my loan is 72 months I live in new jersey so we do get snow and I kinda like the style of the car
buhtcheeks
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so you want to add 2 more years of pay'n on a car loan (WTF!!). a car is one of the worst investments you can get, unless you keep it for longer than what the loan was for. pay more on your 6, wait for the new ms3 to drop and then make a decision, you'l be in the drivers seat then (no pun intended). take care of your car, keep the miles down if you can, stack your $$$, and when the time comes get something better than what a dealer can't move off his/her lot. you can damn near have a car made to order. whats another year or 2? but, if you're gonna do it, go with your heart, don't hesitate and definitely don't look back...
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RunAroundNekid
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Why is Mazda wanting to buy back your Speed6????
Nothing in this thread makes sense... lol
Nothing in this thread makes sense... lol
bradboyd80
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I say keep the MS6 man. I love the new MS3's but the MS6 to me is just a more refined vehicle. Plus it has awd.
And FYI, the front isn't all that bad really. After a while you don't even notice it.
And FYI, the front isn't all that bad really. After a while you don't even notice it.
bradboyd80
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I know its a rare vehicle, but perhaps its even more rare in his area. Honda recently called me at home after I had some service done wanting to buy my Si because the tech noted that it was "extremely clean and well kept". The salesman said Si's are hard to come by and easy to sell around here. Perhaps its a similar situation?
Mazda isn't buying back his car. The dealer is offering him an ass-raping under the guise of "same payment". If he did the numbers he would see that he's trading it in for less than book value and the negative equity, PLUS an insane interest rate, is all rolled up into his "same payment for 72 months."
Tell us what your payment is and let us do the math for you...
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I say go for it!! obviously they are buying it back because a unsolved problem or a repeat problem. To save yourself the damn headache and unreliability I say get your new Speed3....worse comes to sholve you hate it, then sell it to carmax and get yourself another MS6 with lower mileage, perhaps even newer year. just my .02
Jack Daniels
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They aren't interested in buying back your car. They're interested in selling you a new one. 
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They aren't interested in buying back your car. They're interested in selling you a new one.
they are actually more interested in selling the speed6 for a huge profit.
MikeHTally
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This is a common ploy among dealers. Just another way to get business in the showroom.
I spoke with my friend at the mazda dealer he said that my car is extremely rare in our area and that someone is looking for one(he's bought alot of cars from them) and mine is a good candidate(my friend told them about my car) mazda knows im very happy with my ms6 so they will take my car off exactly with my loan because of my gap insurance or something and i'd be looking at getting the ms3 for invoice because of my standing with mazda(repeat customer and friend who works there) that's the situation.
