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This is how i feel about them now, but who knows how I will feel next year when there are more 3's on the road.Pretzellogic said:
What's Hotter- P5 or Mazda3?
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sweet a jdm member!!! how does the sport 20 handel compared to the p5?
The Mazda 3 Hatchback looks like a smaller PT Cruiser - P5 wins for looks
The interior of the M3 is somewhat better - M3 wins
Weird thing is that in spite of the larger HP, the M3 does not feel as quick and nimble as the P5. P5 wins for handling.
My biased vote goes to the P5
The interior of the M3 is somewhat better - M3 wins
Weird thing is that in spite of the larger HP, the M3 does not feel as quick and nimble as the P5. P5 wins for handling.
My biased vote goes to the P5
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Inside: Mazda3 - very modern while not looking cheesy.
Outside: P5 - timeless styling.
Hmm, it's a draw imo.
Outside: P5 - timeless styling.
Hmm, it's a draw imo.
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I have a 3 hatch now and I still voted p5. The 3 is a much different car, more upscale if you ask me.
Had the '5 at Discount Tires the other day. Came out of the store
to find this guy walking from the driver's side around the front to
the right side and back again, pausing to look at the front and
slowly moving to the driver's open window for a look-see inside.
I walk up to get in and he asks, "What make of car is this?" (I had
backed in and he couldn't get around the tail to read the logos).
"Mazda Protege 5," said I.
"It's one of the best looking cars I've ever seen," said the admirer.
Not bad, if I do say so myself. And I'm saying so myself. (thumb)
to find this guy walking from the driver's side around the front to
the right side and back again, pausing to look at the front and
slowly moving to the driver's open window for a look-see inside.
I walk up to get in and he asks, "What make of car is this?" (I had
backed in and he couldn't get around the tail to read the logos).
"Mazda Protege 5," said I.
"It's one of the best looking cars I've ever seen," said the admirer.
Not bad, if I do say so myself. And I'm saying so myself. (thumb)
yea yeah - typical p5 owner
we all know the 3 is the hotter car
we all know the 3 can get any girl droppin their panny's
we all know the 3 is faster
and last but not least
WE ALL KNOW THE P5 IS NO LONGER OUT BECAUSE THE 3 TOOK OVER
it's the TAKEOVER NIGGA
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
we all know the 3 is the hotter car
we all know the 3 can get any girl droppin their panny's
we all know the 3 is faster
and last but not least
WE ALL KNOW THE P5 IS NO LONGER OUT BECAUSE THE 3 TOOK OVER
it's the TAKEOVER NIGGA
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Judging by the poll results, only 5% of "we" know that...styles_t said:
Most of the people who bought the P5 were looking at the Matrix, Vibe, or (shudder) PT Cruiser also because those were the cars in its class. When you compare the P5 to them, sure its smaller, but its lower and sportier and handles better even though it has less horse power.
Then comes along the Mazda3...no P5 owner is going to trade in their car for something that looks like the cars they didn't want when they bought theirs.
Sure it has more horse power, but not as much as the Matrix which also has AWD as an option. If P5 owners were looking for more power they would have bought the Matrix in the first place.
It is bigger too, or at least looks bigger...but there is actually less caro space! But still, if P5 owners were interested in cargo space they would have bought a Matrix.
It has style too, which is different than the P5, but not necessarily better. They have remove some of the boxy lines that the P5 has which gives it a more muscular stance. You either love it or hate it.
It has a new interior. Well the P5 had the best interior out of every enconomy class car I saw for the year 2003 so its hard to match that. The new Mazda3 interior is bold and on the cutting edge...the only problem is that it looks like every other car interior now. Funny how that happens.
So what I'm getting at is that the P5 was unique and ahead of its time with regards to handling, body styling, interior, and features when compared to other economy cars. Mazda could have easily sqeezed 1 or 2 more years out of it in America with great sales if they tweaked a few things (the engine for example). The Mazda3 is a great car too though, but it follows todays car trends rather than taking its own course. It brings nothing new to the market that wasn't there already. Compare a Mazda3 magazine review with a P5 magazine review and you will see what I mean.
Ask any P5 owner why he/she bought one and you'll get a list of concrete answers as to why they didn't choose something else. There are plenty of threads about this. What I want to know is why Mazda3 owners bought one instead of something else...because I don't see any obvious reasons.
I also think that the body styling of the Mazda3 is almost too bold. The P5 will be timeless, blending well with the new models for years...the Mazda3 will stand out in a few years as the direction of the auto industry changes again.
Then comes along the Mazda3...no P5 owner is going to trade in their car for something that looks like the cars they didn't want when they bought theirs.
Sure it has more horse power, but not as much as the Matrix which also has AWD as an option. If P5 owners were looking for more power they would have bought the Matrix in the first place.
It is bigger too, or at least looks bigger...but there is actually less caro space! But still, if P5 owners were interested in cargo space they would have bought a Matrix.
It has style too, which is different than the P5, but not necessarily better. They have remove some of the boxy lines that the P5 has which gives it a more muscular stance. You either love it or hate it.
It has a new interior. Well the P5 had the best interior out of every enconomy class car I saw for the year 2003 so its hard to match that. The new Mazda3 interior is bold and on the cutting edge...the only problem is that it looks like every other car interior now. Funny how that happens.
So what I'm getting at is that the P5 was unique and ahead of its time with regards to handling, body styling, interior, and features when compared to other economy cars. Mazda could have easily sqeezed 1 or 2 more years out of it in America with great sales if they tweaked a few things (the engine for example). The Mazda3 is a great car too though, but it follows todays car trends rather than taking its own course. It brings nothing new to the market that wasn't there already. Compare a Mazda3 magazine review with a P5 magazine review and you will see what I mean.
Ask any P5 owner why he/she bought one and you'll get a list of concrete answers as to why they didn't choose something else. There are plenty of threads about this. What I want to know is why Mazda3 owners bought one instead of something else...because I don't see any obvious reasons.
I also think that the body styling of the Mazda3 is almost too bold. The P5 will be timeless, blending well with the new models for years...the Mazda3 will stand out in a few years as the direction of the auto industry changes again.
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Hey, I think the Mazda3 is a great car. I love the interior, it has increased hp and gets great reviews...I just don't like the exterior styling of it.
Too bulbous imo.
Too bulbous imo.
As the owner of two 03.5 Pros--a P5 and an ES, both stick--I'd like to toss in my thoughts for what they may not be worth.
Some excellent comments have been made here and as usual, the "mine is cooler" statement. As a matter of fact, the Pro and the 3 are both just that.
Handling
Let's look at the 5-5 and the 3-5 and leave the sedans out. I suggest that of the two, the 5 is the "driver's car" having driven both and own one. Mazda simply got it right when they built the 01-03 chassis. The cars, IMHO, have better overall balance than the 3 series, which has a new platform. I have been able to push a 3 demo on three occasions and found it lacked the "tossability" of my 5 or my wife's ES, neither of which has chassis mods, but do carry 17/7 wheels. Mine is running Goodyear F1 GS D3s, hers a set of Yoko Avid H4Ss. My 5 will outcorner the ES--no contest--as it should.
The 3--in both 5- and 4-door configuration are solid handlers, but give a sense of "touring" more than "sport." Our cars w/o the change in wheels/tires tended to ride more firmly than either 3, particularly the 5 which carries stiffer stock springs than the ES.
If you have read the major automotive pubs reviews, you'll find my views rather a common thread with their writers, as well as finding many of the same comments on various net forums.
Interiors
The 3 is definitely more upscale than the Pro, which to me is practical as well as functional and quite ergonomically suitable. Of course, a set of Dave's rings makes it. Period! I think the instrument panel in the 3 is nicer esthetically, but then, this is all subjective.
The seats in the 5 we find more than adequate, even for long trips. No dead butts. However, I prefer the seats in the 3. As for materials in either, they're both attractive (cloth the comparo), but again, I think the 3 is better. I have the GB Northwest Interior leather kit awaiting installation which will probably swing my opinion to the 5. It better. My wife got it for me as an anniversary gift!
Engine
Who can argue? The 3 has it off the line. I do, however, believe the correct mods for a streetable all-motor will provide all I need on the road and for the occasional track day. I'm not a fan of hair dryers even though I admit that's where the power lies in a vast assortment of applications.
Styling
My wife originally wanted the 5 for her business; I bought the ES. After a month or so, she found the trunk width of the ES more suited to her doings and I took over the 5. I've never looked back except after parking it. It's a very nice package with the MP3 lip and the grill brow painted body color.
I do like the lines of the 5 better than the ES, even though neither is hard on the eyes. I just feel that the 5 is probably one of the best balanced overall designs ever incorporated into a hatchback, regardless of marque or price.
The 3 has never quite come together for me, although I think I prefer the sedan to the 3-5. It would probably be more appealing with the correct set of body and wheel mods and lowered. I do know there are some nice color choices available for each, some of which "make" the styling more than others for me.
Conclusion
Mazda is selling the 3 faster than it ever sold the Pro, regardless of year. They're reopening a closed plant in Japan to meet demand and may devote some line time to the 3 at yet another. The 3 is outselling their expectations to the point that some dealers have less than a 2-week supply of cars--50 days is considered a cushion in most circles, I'm told.
If I had no 5, I would probably buy a 3-5 and my wife would get the 4-door, even though she has problems with the lines and prefers her ES, both of which we intend to keep. Additional mods are forthcoming on both.
There's probably more I missed than what I made a case for, but regardless of which you prefer, it's a Winged M with pride of ownership.
I rest my case.
Some excellent comments have been made here and as usual, the "mine is cooler" statement. As a matter of fact, the Pro and the 3 are both just that.
Handling
Let's look at the 5-5 and the 3-5 and leave the sedans out. I suggest that of the two, the 5 is the "driver's car" having driven both and own one. Mazda simply got it right when they built the 01-03 chassis. The cars, IMHO, have better overall balance than the 3 series, which has a new platform. I have been able to push a 3 demo on three occasions and found it lacked the "tossability" of my 5 or my wife's ES, neither of which has chassis mods, but do carry 17/7 wheels. Mine is running Goodyear F1 GS D3s, hers a set of Yoko Avid H4Ss. My 5 will outcorner the ES--no contest--as it should.
The 3--in both 5- and 4-door configuration are solid handlers, but give a sense of "touring" more than "sport." Our cars w/o the change in wheels/tires tended to ride more firmly than either 3, particularly the 5 which carries stiffer stock springs than the ES.
If you have read the major automotive pubs reviews, you'll find my views rather a common thread with their writers, as well as finding many of the same comments on various net forums.
Interiors
The 3 is definitely more upscale than the Pro, which to me is practical as well as functional and quite ergonomically suitable. Of course, a set of Dave's rings makes it. Period! I think the instrument panel in the 3 is nicer esthetically, but then, this is all subjective.
The seats in the 5 we find more than adequate, even for long trips. No dead butts. However, I prefer the seats in the 3. As for materials in either, they're both attractive (cloth the comparo), but again, I think the 3 is better. I have the GB Northwest Interior leather kit awaiting installation which will probably swing my opinion to the 5. It better. My wife got it for me as an anniversary gift!
Engine
Who can argue? The 3 has it off the line. I do, however, believe the correct mods for a streetable all-motor will provide all I need on the road and for the occasional track day. I'm not a fan of hair dryers even though I admit that's where the power lies in a vast assortment of applications.
Styling
My wife originally wanted the 5 for her business; I bought the ES. After a month or so, she found the trunk width of the ES more suited to her doings and I took over the 5. I've never looked back except after parking it. It's a very nice package with the MP3 lip and the grill brow painted body color.
I do like the lines of the 5 better than the ES, even though neither is hard on the eyes. I just feel that the 5 is probably one of the best balanced overall designs ever incorporated into a hatchback, regardless of marque or price.
The 3 has never quite come together for me, although I think I prefer the sedan to the 3-5. It would probably be more appealing with the correct set of body and wheel mods and lowered. I do know there are some nice color choices available for each, some of which "make" the styling more than others for me.
Conclusion
Mazda is selling the 3 faster than it ever sold the Pro, regardless of year. They're reopening a closed plant in Japan to meet demand and may devote some line time to the 3 at yet another. The 3 is outselling their expectations to the point that some dealers have less than a 2-week supply of cars--50 days is considered a cushion in most circles, I'm told.
If I had no 5, I would probably buy a 3-5 and my wife would get the 4-door, even though she has problems with the lines and prefers her ES, both of which we intend to keep. Additional mods are forthcoming on both.
There's probably more I missed than what I made a case for, but regardless of which you prefer, it's a Winged M with pride of ownership.
I rest my case.
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