whats faster, bone stock Neon srt4 or the MS3

idk they both are pritty fast the numbers that come with the srt-4 which is 230hp 250trq thats not to the crank thats to the wheels..and even at that they down play those numbers lol but the speed 3 is also what 262 hp 280 trq but thats to the crank not to the wheels also the 3 has more weight then the srt4 which the srt4 weighs like 2900 pounds the speed 3 is what like 33 3400...my gf has a 05 srt-4 no mods and she ran a 14.3 at 102.96 mph 1/4mile and thats with her boggin 2nd like a b**** lol but the speed 3 is alot safer i think the srt4 would win in a straight line race
 
idk they both are pritty fast the numbers that come with the srt-4 which is 230hp 250trq thats not to the crank thats to the wheels..and even at that they down play those numbers lol but the speed 3 is also what 262 hp 280 trq but thats to the crank not to the wheels also the 3 has more weight then the srt4 which the srt4 weighs like 2900 pounds the speed 3 is what like 33 3400...my gf has a 05 srt-4 no mods and she ran a 14.3 at 102.96 mph 1/4mile and thats with her boggin 2nd like a b**** lol but the speed 3 is alot safer i think the srt4 would win in a straight line race

the ms3 is a bit north of 3100lbs.
 
some SRT's can hit 13.9's with a decent driver, and had ruled the FWD turbo scene until the ms3 came around. Its a drivers race. But you have to remember, they have power balls to the walls through all gears, we dont. if we had full power 1st and 2nd like them, i think the MS3 would top the SRT

I may be getting a little off topic, but im not biased to any car, so im not going to say the MS3 rules right off the top.
 
yeah its more a drivers race and how well the car is driven. The cars are so identical when it comes to who faster that it just matters whos more experienced in the car.
 
what? are you kidding me. With less mods I beat. An 05 srt4 LSD,230/250tq...2nd,3rd gear. Didnt beat him by much but beat him. Worse case scenario we are dead even or max maybe a car faster then me if he messed up or something. Not pulling on me hard at all no matter what scenario though.

And I have a MSP. So the ms3 better be faster.
 
^^^ do you know how many SRT's claim the same as you? google there forums about MS3's or any Turbo FWD, youll hear endless stories. But the fact we are talked about so much does show they have to work against us, not just walk all over us. Im not saying you didnt beat him, but we are talking stock for stock, not mod for mod.
 
they both run about the same.

People say the MS3 has the better interior, fit, and finish, and others say the SRT-4 Neon is more visceral and raw.

I like both cars. I prefer hatchbacks personally. I think both cars have excellent powerplants. I wish we had the SRT4's aftermarket.
 
well i had an srt4, and the reason i was asking is cause i think this car is faster but thought maybe you guys would know for sure. but yea they must be close.
 
srt4 is slightly faster according to magazines....as long as you dont have to turn or need a car that will not blow up
 
car and driver rated it higher than 6 other cars, neon wasn't even in the running

Yea, overall the MS3 outrates the SRT, I.E. quality, interior, exterior, handling, aerodynamics, all the important stuff.

The dodge guys are trying to pitch that the Caliber SRT is suppose to be the new MS3 competition seeing the neon is discontinued. Even tho it looks like s*** (blarf)
 
Yea, overall the MS3 outrates the SRT, I.E. quality, interior, exterior, handling, aerodynamics, all the important stuff.

The dodge guys are trying to pitch that the Caliber SRT is suppose to be the new MS3 competition seeing the neon is discontinued. Even tho it looks like s*** (blarf)

right, but the question was which car is faster, not overall ratings
 
well i owned both, even though i asked the question, i still feel like my Ms3 is faster then my srt4. maybe i just have bad memory though, i havent owned my srt4 for 2 years now. my srt4 had dynoed 277hp 292tq and it feels just like my ms3
 
right, but the question was which car is faster, not overall ratings

Right, and i wasent answering that question or any question at all for that matter, i was commenting on marin_nj 's comment, hence the quote....
 
well ive drivin both the srt-4s power is to the wheels its prob alil higher then 230hp 250trq now if you want to talk about safty and how nice the 3 is i mean s*** if you crash the srt4 you better be going only lik 20 or the whole car will b destroyd lol but i mean ive seen both run at the track and i mean stock to stock its a close race handling the srt4s arnt that bad they hug corners pritty good ..but dont try doing a Uturn or youll end up doing a 3 point turn lol but you know what out handles both of them a MS6 ;) lol :D but i would say a srt4 would win in a straight race 1/4 mile and for the msp kid idk that srt4 driver must of suckd because ive drivin both cars and the srt4 is alottttttttttttttt faster then a msp
 
2005 SRT ACR FTW. faster in a straight line, and in turns. stock. cheaper and with better aftermarket.

The srt is an amazing car for what it is...a low rent racer.

The MS3 is a beautiful car. Very powerful, nice 6 speed, great interior, features, and hatchback utility. But bottom line, the srt is faster if we're all adults and put away our personal preferences.

and now the new Cobalt is the king in a straight line, AND in turns.

(the MS3 is the better "vehicle", which is good, you know we drive these things on the street!)
 
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