What Years Had Cartridge vs Spin-On Oil Filter?

[Silentnoise713]

Conversion kit. Looks good and seems to fit (attachment provisions). I must say the OEM Mazda filter has a FANTASTIC feel to it (beefy, large, and just plain feels like a solid piece). Much better than any other oil filter I've used! This kit is ‘technically’ for a MS3 so I wonder if this may have some play in the parts. I also think the base plate looks like it ‘should’ fit an even wider filter but assumptions for now. Depending on how I like it, I just might get the filter relocation kit too. I am day dreaming of a super easy oil change that has no drips and fast a lightening. Until the next oil change...

 

[njaremka]

the only thing i DON'T like about those conversion kits is you have no way of draining the filter before removing it from the housing. sounds like potentially causing a greater mess when it comes to changing the oil.

 

[Silentnoise713]

the only thing i DON'T like about canisters filters, which majority of the casr have, is you have no way of draining the filter before removing it from the housing. sounds like potentially causing a greater mess when it comes to changing the oil.

Fixed it for you

If you must, you can tap a hole in the canister with a nail (or something hollow) and let it drain. The way I see it, removing the canister is no different than removing the drain plug -both will cause that little mess (why relocation is not out of the question just yet b/c I have a rotating idea to keep it clean). At least I won't have to use a pick to deal with the two o-rings and once drained or priming them (mess), removing the cartridge filter housing is another unnecessary step. Maybe I have become lazy?

 

[njaremka]

sorry, yeah, canister filters. the protege ALWAYS drips oil down my arm when i change the oil.

 

[flcruising]

The recent oil change I did to ours made me realize 1 major benefit to the cartridge filter.

If you look at any canister filter, you will notice that it has a number of perforated holes in the cap for oil to enter the filter, and holes inside the core for the oil to leave the filter. The number of each determine flow restriction.

The cartridge filter housing on the other hand has no such holes. Oil freely enters the filter housing, bathing the filter media with no (cap hole) restriction. The cartridge itself is inserted over a webbed plastic piece that is, once again, basically open.

May not be so important to some, but to me this is a glaring benefit to a more efficient and less restrictive cartridge filter.

 

[Silentnoise713]

The recent oil change I did to ours made me realize 1 major benefit to the cartridge filter.

If you look at any canister filter, you will notice that it has a number of perforated holes in the cap for oil to enter the filter, and holes inside the core for the oil to leave the filter. The number of each determine flow restriction.

The cartridge filter housing on the other hand has no such holes. Oil freely enters the filter housing, bathing the filter media with no (cap hole) restriction. The cartridge itself is inserted over a webbed plastic piece that is, once again, basically open.

May not be so important to some, but to me this is a glaring benefit to a more efficient and less restrictive cartridge filter.

Glaring might be too strong of a word. It may be a benefit but if it is not needed, then I would not call it a glaring benefit. I would safely assume that any canister filter (perforated holes and all) are designed with enough consideration to allow/support the rate of oil flow needed while not cause blockage for that particular engine’s need.

The only real advantage I see in cartridge filter is less resource utilization and subsequent disposed (internal parts and casing). To me, the disadvantages outweigh the advantages.

If anyone with canister filter and want to convert to a cartridge filter, I’d be willing to trade OE mounting blocks.

 

[flcruising]

Even if glaring is too strong of a word, I have to disagree as cartridge filters don't have bypass valves whereas the majority of canister filters do - at least the decent ones. I wonder if the valve is there to overcome said flow limitation...hmmm

Without the incorporating of a bypass filter, this conversion is not attractive. If my vehicle came with OE canister filter, I'd trade with you in a heartbeat, though PA is quite far.

 

[Robotazky]

Glaring might be too strong of a word. It may be a benefit but if it is not needed, then I would not call it a glaring benefit. I would safely assume that any canister filter (perforated holes and all) are designed with enough consideration to allow/support the rate of oil flow needed while not cause blockage for that particular engines need.

The only real advantage I see in cartridge filter is less resource utilization and subsequent disposed (internal parts and casing). To me, the disadvantages outweigh the advantages.

If anyone with canister filter and want to convert to a cartridge filter, Id be willing to trade OE mounting blocks.

My favorite feature of the cartridge is that I can see the filter and check it for any strange material. I also like being able to drain the filter. Otherwise, I don't see any advantage one way or the other.

 

[Silentnoise713]

Completed the conversion and made a how-to.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...anister-filter-–-Mazda5&p=5829108#post5829108

Mileage is adding up fast. Make me wish Toyota had release the Prius V as a 7 seater.

Having a look for the 2nd time, I can't understand why some people feel it is ok to drive WITHOUT the engine pan tray. While it is great that the oil filter is so easily accessible, it is also in FRONT of the block and susceptible to debris hits that can tear the filter (or canister housing) apart in a snap. Get that tray fixed, stat!