What is my freakin' problem?
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Speed_Racer
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the msp is practically supercharged with its boost response. ignore the gauge, does the car feel odd to you at all?
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I don't know how you guys even have time to look at the boost gauge in first! I'm in and out of first in no time. All I watch is the tach so I don't hit redline in a half a second.
nvmsp said:
if what u and msphtown isnt argueing than i dont know what is. anyhow its a miscomunication issue. what you said is that it will build boost in 1st but wont show up on a gauge, which makes no sense. as a gauge shows boost if its boost, plain and simple. now, thats not what u meant but thats how it sounded.
"Originally Posted by nvmsp
I'm not saying it won't build boost in 1st, I'm saying it won't show up on your gauge."
see? boost will show on a boost gauge reguardless. i know what u mean now tho, just saying its possible to not see full boost in 1st cause its so quick.
so as i said before, lets not clutter the thread.
Speed_Racer
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mspHtown said:
(lol) (rofl)
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I think I'm going to wear a helmet cam so I can see mine do that!(bowdown)
no boost? wtf
if there is a load, there is boost, a boost gauge reads boost, if your gauge doesnt read it man your gauge is prolly ******, or your car is.
there is only one factor...your gauge reads boost or it does'nt, to say that the car only builds "a few" psi in 1st gear is STRAIGHT UP dumb. i would say that if your gauge is giving you that indication, your gauge is not working properly.
NVMSP- i would check all your facts before you start a rumor such as: "the msprotege does not build but only a few psi of boost in 1st". clearly the video that msphtown posted shows that the car builds more than "a few". I also agree that talking about fighting is dumb, especailly when I know msphtown very well, and i hang otu with him at every car meet, and he and his friends know that im the guy that kicks everyone's asses.
but to crash kelly
you should refill your v-tach fluid and change your brake pads...i had the same problem on the stock amp, but when i siwtched my pads and went for the aftermarket amp i was reading full boost fine after that....but usually i run with my turbo turned off anyways...
if there is a load, there is boost, a boost gauge reads boost, if your gauge doesnt read it man your gauge is prolly ******, or your car is.
there is only one factor...your gauge reads boost or it does'nt, to say that the car only builds "a few" psi in 1st gear is STRAIGHT UP dumb. i would say that if your gauge is giving you that indication, your gauge is not working properly.
NVMSP- i would check all your facts before you start a rumor such as: "the msprotege does not build but only a few psi of boost in 1st". clearly the video that msphtown posted shows that the car builds more than "a few". I also agree that talking about fighting is dumb, especailly when I know msphtown very well, and i hang otu with him at every car meet, and he and his friends know that im the guy that kicks everyone's asses.
but to crash kelly
you should refill your v-tach fluid and change your brake pads...i had the same problem on the stock amp, but when i siwtched my pads and went for the aftermarket amp i was reading full boost fine after that....but usually i run with my turbo turned off anyways...
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I can say with absolutely no doubt that I cannot build more than 1-2 psi in first gear - if you'd like I can take a video of it. You said it yourself "if there is a load, there is boost" however the amount of boost is determined by the amount of load applied - this is the reason we can avoid going into positive boost during daily driving to conserve gas. Now, you might be asking why at WOT in first gear I'm not getting the full 8 psi of boost I see in other gears. The answer is simple - there is not enough engine load to develop more than 1-2 psi. Now there are two big reasons for me why this is so - those being I am running a severely lightened flywheel and a lightened crank pulley so there is less external load on my engine than there usually is. Before these mods (well the flywheel at least) I could build more boost in first gear. The boost building is also a function of the turbo. If I have a much larger turbo I probably wouldn't be able to build any boost in first gear (or possibly second for that matter). Likewise, if I had a smaller turbo (is that possible?) I could probably build more. Take it how you want, but this is how I see it.sjh482 said:
For reference, even though my boost gauge does not "center" when off, it reads a perfect 21 mm Hg vacuum at idle and boosts up to 7.5-8 psi at WOT (not in first gear) so I'm quite certain my gauge is not off.
nvmsp said:
here is the main point of my argument ^^^^. i never denied that different factors affect boost (especially altering the load w/ flywheel, pullies, etc.). i made the video to show that indeed you do build boost in first gear and THAT IT WILL SHOW ON THE GAUGE. if you build 4 pounds of boost, it will show on the gauge. my car hits full boost in first (12 psi) when i go WOT on a flat road, on a hill, etc. it is absolutely ignorant to claim that the boost gauge wont read the pressure if its there.
