Warning: Dont get too cocky (ok and a rant)
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There is your prototypical definition of sports car. There is some leeway.
For example, cars like the BMW M3, Audi RS4, Cadillac CTS-V, e.t.c have a lot of the characteristics of the prototypical sports car so they are called sports sedans or coupes.
But the MS3 by virtue of being FWD alone, this just about totally disqualifies it form being a sports car.
Theres a reason why you don't seea lot of FWD race-cars.
There is lee-way in the definition of what a sports car is but to call the MS3 a sports car is a stretch I'm not willing to make.
Its VERY good for what it is but a sports car, it is not.
For example, cars like the BMW M3, Audi RS4, Cadillac CTS-V, e.t.c have a lot of the characteristics of the prototypical sports car so they are called sports sedans or coupes.
But the MS3 by virtue of being FWD alone, this just about totally disqualifies it form being a sports car.
Theres a reason why you don't seea lot of FWD race-cars.
There is lee-way in the definition of what a sports car is but to call the MS3 a sports car is a stretch I'm not willing to make.
Its VERY good for what it is but a sports car, it is not.
A true sports car is 2 or less passenger capacity high powered and RWD. Of the ones I mentioned, only the Vette is a sports car. The rest were pony cars or based off rally cars. The MS3 is a sport compact. - FWD, high powered econo car. The basis of this car was never designed for high performance competition like a Vette, Porche, Lotus ect..
The G55 AMG has a V8 with 469 horsepower and 516 pound-feet of torque.
The handbuilt 5.5-liter supercharged V-8 to can get to 62 mph in 5.6 seconds, setting it squarely next to the Porsche Cayenne Turbo in terms of 0-to-60 track performance.
Look me in the eye and tell me that since its as fast as the porshe and makes big HP and torque numbers that it can be called a sports car or sports truck or whatever.
Theres wiggle room as to the definition, but the MS3 is not a sports car
BTW: This is all in the spirit of good fun debate. No malice on my part, I very much like the MS3 and would own one in a heartbeat.
justa4banger
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Only one true SPORTS CAR in the world. Bugatti VERYON (spelling)
16 cyl, 4 turbos, 1001 hp and 260+ top speed. thats a F@#$ING SPORTS CAR!
:EDIT: Def. of a sports car is, a car that is only attainable by the elite members of society. Like the above mentioned vehicle. a Corvette though nice is not a true sports car. the ZO6 on the other hand might be. (stirring the pot rrrreeeaaallllllll slow
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Oh and my MS3
Whats a mustang? Sports car? or ???
16 cyl, 4 turbos, 1001 hp and 260+ top speed. thats a F@#$ING SPORTS CAR!
:EDIT: Def. of a sports car is, a car that is only attainable by the elite members of society. Like the above mentioned vehicle. a Corvette though nice is not a true sports car. the ZO6 on the other hand might be. (stirring the pot rrrreeeaaallllllll slow
)Oh and my MS3
Whats a mustang? Sports car? or ???
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Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, Dart, Challenger, Cuda, Original charger... they were all pony cars. Too small to be muscle cars, and too many seats to be a sports car. The vette is a sports car. Thats it's only role in life. The Viper is also a sports car. Those cars were designed with competition in mind. Vettes even have their transmissions in the back of the car and their engines in the front for weight distribution. T56's are huge transmissions. The Z06 just takes it a bit further. The damned floor pans on that thing is made of balsa wood and carbon fiber.
justa4banger said:Only one true SPORTS CAR in the world. Bugatti VERYON (spelling)
16 cyl, 4 turbos, 1001 hp and 260+ top speed. thats a F@#$ING SPORTS CAR!
:EDIT: Def. of a sports car is, a car that is only attainable by the elite members of society. Like the above mentioned vehicle. a Corvette though nice is not a true sports car. the ZO6 on the other hand might be. (stirring the pot rrrreeeaaallllllll slow
Oh and my MS3
Whats a mustang? Sports car? or ???
(shocked) (poke) (enguard) (omg)
justa4banger
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- 2007 SILVER MS3
Well i'm setting up my "PONY" car mustang to Whoop up on Silly Corvette Owners. On top of that, I'm going to Really hurt their feelings by showing them my silly 2.3 turbo motor.
I love my SVO, though sometimes i could just set a brick on the pedal and have a beer. Did i mention Dynamite.............
When the car does run right and not break stuff, it sure is a hoot to drive. Even more fun with unsuspecting V8 Owners. I love going to the local track (though they are getting used to seeing me) and setting up a race. then running them, and coming back poping the hood. It never fails someone always walks away pissed that it wasn't just another Mustang that beat them, IT WAS A *Bleeping* 4CYL.
Ok back to topic: Yea i hate idiot drivers kill them all.
I love my SVO, though sometimes i could just set a brick on the pedal and have a beer. Did i mention Dynamite.............
When the car does run right and not break stuff, it sure is a hoot to drive. Even more fun with unsuspecting V8 Owners. I love going to the local track (though they are getting used to seeing me) and setting up a race. then running them, and coming back poping the hood. It never fails someone always walks away pissed that it wasn't just another Mustang that beat them, IT WAS A *Bleeping* 4CYL.
Ok back to topic: Yea i hate idiot drivers kill them all.
justa4banger said:Well i'm setting up my "PONY" car mustang to Whoop up on Silly Corvette Owners. On top of that, I'm going to Really hurt their feelings by showing them my silly 2.3 turbo motor.
I love my SVO, though sometimes i could just set a brick on the pedal and have a beer. Did i mention Dynamite.............
When the car does run right and not break stuff, it sure is a hoot to drive. Even more fun with unsuspecting V8 Owners. I love going to the local track (though they are getting used to seeing me) and setting up a race. then running them, and coming back poping the hood. It never fails someone always walks away pissed that it wasn't just another Mustang that beat them, IT WAS A *Bleeping* 4CYL.
Ok back to topic: Yea i hate idiot drivers kill them all.
Bring on that "PONY" of yours (glare).. Ill go win the lotto and get meself a Silly Blue Devil Corvette and we decide up at Willow Springs Raceway which turbo car is more silly (enguard) (first)
I have to admit the turns this thread has taken has been rather amusing... triple jet engines... LOL! thanks everyone I needed the laughs... now if the damn stereo shop would finish my amp installs... getting impatient....
back on topic: no need to kill the idiots just restrict them to the slow lane
justa4banger said:Only one true SPORTS CAR in the world. Bugatti VERYON (spelling)
16 cyl, 4 turbos, 1001 hp and 260+ top speed. thats a F@#$ING SPORTS CAR!
:EDIT: Def. of a sports car is, a car that is only attainable by the elite members of society. Like the above mentioned vehicle. a Corvette though nice is not a true sports car. the ZO6 on the other hand might be. (stirring the pot rrrreeeaaallllllll slow
Actually the Corvette would be more a Sports Car by definition of "Sports". The Veyron is actually beyond the realm of tradition sports cars, which is why we have the class of "Super Car". The Veyron is a Super Car. LOL
MS3 is a Sports Compact AND it's a car... therefore it must be a Sports (Compact) Car
I'm just throwing logs in the fire. But I think my Super Car theory is very well thought out. Indeeed.
A bit off topic, but in line with the definition of "Sports". I took a flight from California to Washington DC with a rear axle housing as checked baggage; I was delivering it to my chassis builder and fortunately was sent on a business trip at that time. It was wrapped in heavy cardboard. At the check in I was prepared to pay a fee for excess bagage and when the clerk was trying to figure out what to charge me, the guy at the next desk chimes in "Is that sports equipment? Sports equipment is free!" So of course I said yes (well it was for a sports car). They filled out this form and when the description line was to be filled in asked me what to put - I said it's a "sports thing" so that's what they put in the form. Beat the hell out of paying for freight!
Sports car is all in how you think. A Caddy can be a sports car if it is driven properly. A Miata can be a cruiser too. YMMV
Sports car is all in how you think. A Caddy can be a sports car if it is driven properly. A Miata can be a cruiser too. YMMV
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justa4banger said:Well i'm setting up my "PONY" car mustang to Whoop up on Silly Corvette Owners. On top of that, I'm going to Really hurt their feelings by showing them my silly 2.3 turbo motor.
I love my SVO, though sometimes i could just set a brick on the pedal and have a beer. Did i mention Dynamite.............
When the car does run right and not break stuff, it sure is a hoot to drive. Even more fun with unsuspecting V8 Owners. I love going to the local track (though they are getting used to seeing me) and setting up a race. then running them, and coming back poping the hood. It never fails someone always walks away pissed that it wasn't just another Mustang that beat them, IT WAS A *Bleeping* 4CYL.
Hey now! Why do people always have to assume that Vette drivers are assholes that don't appreciate other cars for what they are?(poke)
