Vendor and Consumer Protection Guidelines

LinuxRacr said:
Anytime a thread like those are stickied, it is meant to only be stickied till the group buy ends so that folks don't miss out. It was a request. There are better methods of doing stuff like that we willing to explore.

So what you are saying is any Vendor with a group buy going on can have it stickied in other sections upon request? Seems like we would have more vendors requesting this.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
So what you are saying is any Vendor with a group buy going on can have it stickied in other sections upon request? Seems like we would have more vendors requesting this.

No one else requested. What you see as favoritism is nothing more than that. Looking back, it may not be a good idea to do this anymore, or folks may get the wrong impression... (headshake
 
just make sure you dont include comparing an contrasting the product being offered/discussed with those of competitors as forms of "vendor bashing".
 
Maybe vendors can only offer GB's in the main AV, AMM, Sponsor GB section... no stickies, no nothing. Any vendor that wishes to offer a GB can do it there (if approved). If members want to view the current deals offered by our vendors, they can just go there. If the product is car specific, then the title can state it. I still like to see what my favorite vendors are making for cars other than mine anyway. Just an idea. That way no fighting, vendors have equal 'outreach' for lack of better terms.
 
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great write-up. I also agree that vendors should do the GB's in the main AV, AMM, Sponsor GB section. so that there is a different thread for the member sales and vendor Group Buys.
 
What would be kind of cool is if there was an area to discuss vendor products instead of "comparing and contrasting" in the vendor's for sale thread. You know, that area, what was it called, the rest of the forum!? People should just really stop cluttering up the for sale sections with "OMG OH GNOES WILL DIS BLATANTLY MSP ONLY PART WORK ON MY P5?!?" Just a thought.
 
One thing we must also watch... we must not get caught up in bashing the problems, or the people that cause them. You must focus on solutions rather than the problems themselves. The goal is to create a healthy atmosphere between the vendors, moderators, and members of the forum. I know (and the moderators do as well), this is not an easy task... but reaching the goal is the #1 priority here.
 
One of the biggest frustrations for a customer is time. I don't think it is the amount of time, it has more to do with deadlines not being kept. I think people get upset when they have paid, and don't have a product, and a deadline goes past without a phone call from the vendor. Then they try calling the vendor with no luck. That's what leads to the posts. Because the customer knows by posting bad, they can get some action. I don't think it is right that the customer gets to use the board that way, but on the same token, vendors must keep in contact with customers. I'm waiting patiently for a couple of products from one of our vendors. I have say, the amount of time is not the problem, it's the uncertainty of when my stuff is going to arrive. If a deadline comes and goes, and a product is not going to ship, a phone call from the vendor will go a long way. I know I will be much happier if I get a call saying I'm not getting anything yet because it's not ready. At least I know it's still being worked on.

Just change of the posting rules to no bashing vendors or companies that are none vendors on the board in public. It limits hot heads from bashing vendors because they are using emotion, and not there brain. I've seen it in other forums. Then the only way to tell people is through PM's or emails. If it's a really f'ed up situation, then everyone will know, and maybe then it can be discussed. If it's just someone that is crying for no reason, nobody will give a crap, and it will never effect the vendor.
 
I commend you guys on finally bringing this to light...being both a customer and a vendor I can see how both sides are getting frustrated at the negative results that are happening...I myself almost ceased product of all MSP products last week after a recent run in with a bad tempered "basher" the only reason I'm staying around is b/c I received nearly 40 emails of past customers telling me to not let it get to me that they were very happy with what we've sold thus far. Perhaps there should be some sort of mediation form as a first step in solving vendor-customer problems. ie if a customer has a problem they can fill out a certain form and send it to the appropriate moderator, here the moderators can get together and decided a course of action to make both parties happy. THis way the customer has a paper trail and can "go public" if the vendor refuses to cooperate, and the vendor is allowed the chance to fix any problems without being crucified.
 
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while we are on this subject i have recently noticed a current vendor has been sent to purgatory for promoting/defending his product which goes against the message this post is giving out of trying to treat our vendors a little better so they will not leave and continue to produce inovative products. I would have to say though that when i researched the thread of y this person was banned all the posts against him where deleted to make him alone look bad.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
So what you are saying is any Vendor with a group buy going on can have it stickied in other sections upon request? Seems like we would have more vendors requesting this.

No...Actually stickies should not be vendor related.
 
CasopoliS said:
One thing we must also watch... we must not get caught up in bashing the problems, or the people that cause them. You must focus on solutions rather than the problems themselves. The goal is to create a healthy atmosphere between the vendors, moderators, and members of the forum. I know (and the moderators do as well), this is not an easy task... but reaching the goal is the #1 priority here.

Well said!
 
DSMConvert said:
Perhaps there should be some sort of mediation form as a first step in solving vendor-customer problems. ie if a customer has a problem they can fill out a certain form and send it to the appropriate moderator, here the moderators can get together and decided a course of action to make both parties happy. THis way the customer has a paper trail and can "go public" if the vendor refuses to cooperate, and the vendor is allowed the chance to fix any problems without being crucified.

Solid Idea ;) Could be on to something here...
 
Shadow102 said:
while we are on this subject i have recently noticed a current vendor has been sent to purgatory for promoting/defending his product which goes against the message this post is giving out of trying to treat our vendors a little better so they will not leave and continue to produce inovative products. I would have to say though that when i researched the thread of y this person was banned all the posts against him where deleted to make him alone look bad.

That person is NOT an authorized vendor on this site.
 
LinuxRacr said:
That person is NOT an authorized vendor on this site.

the how is it that his product has been authorized to have been sold in a GB thread in the vendor area. maybey he himself does not have the full vendor status but he is still able to promote the product being authorized for sale on this forum. Thats like saying the only person aloud to promote products on this bored are vendors
 
Please keep this post going, as it will only do good for everyone. Maybe split the specific issues off, and keep the main post as a think tank for ideas.
 
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