Using your NAVI while moving..

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Does anyone know what someone can do to be able and use the navigation system while moving? Its not connected to the e-brakes or even brakes in general. When the car moves over like 2 mph it is not usable. Anything we can do to use it in the freeway? Hell with pulling over when your lost(rant)
 
If they were smart, the will have tied the lock-out to the GPS output - i.e. if the GPS thinks you are moving, then it won't take instruction. That way you can't just cut a sensor cable and bypass it.

However, I have no direct knowledge of this system, so can't offer anything constructive.
 
I have heard of other car brands having a simple cable to cut that will fix that problem, but i am unsure of what the fix is on the 6...there must be someone here who knows the answer. src666 has a point thou, if they were smart they would have it locked to the GPS output, hopefully thats not the case.
Best of luck, and i'm sure someone will be able to answer that,
-mark
 
Our system uses both GPS and wheel sensors so that it can figure out where you are when you're in a tunnel or a parking garage. I'm not sure if you could disable the wheel sensor and not have the system freak out.
 
I don't know your system but my Garmin 200 has a "Safe Mode". If you turn it off, you can edit while moving. What makes the manufacturer think you don't have a passenger that can set it while YOU'RE driving?!(fuoops)(upyours)


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PS: Look at my new thread GPS POI. I will attempt to start a "point of interest" help thread to make the GPS systems worth a sh*t!
 
I don't have the factory Navigation unit but I just gotta rant a bit.

I'm really starting to get annoyed with manufacturers forcing us to use the car they way they want. It first started in my MSP where if I'm using any defrost settings, or just the floor setting it automatically turns on the A/C and doesn't allow me to turn it off. Now we can't use a $2,000 navi unit when the car is moving? Like someone said, if you have a passenger with you they could control it and you'd still be "safe".

Seatbelts are probably going to buckle themselves in a few years.
 
Seatbelts are probably going to buckle themselves in a few years.

They already tried that, don't you remember the 90's with the silly motorized belt attached to the door instead of the frame of the car? Seemed like a good idea at the time...until they figured out if the door was ripped off in an accident it would take the passenger with it. Opppsy.

Anyway, the defrost thing is reasonable. People are too stupid to turn it on themselves and defrost isn't very effective when it blows moist air on the inside of the glass...it just fogs up from the inside while your trying to clear the outside. If they didn't turn on the A/C people would just complain it didn't work. I like the one-touch solution personally but I do understand your point. I used to leave it on defrost/floor because I wanted heat up top, just not blowing in my face.

As for the GPS system....there should definitely be a way to unlock it because a passenger can always make changes while you are driving. For example, while enroute you may be interested in stopping for lunch. Without stopping in the middle of the highway, how can you find where the closest restaurant is?

Now if they were really smart, they'd tap into the passenger airbag sensor (the one that determines the weight of the front passenger to see whether it should deploy the airbag). If the sensor doesn't pick up anything, the unit is disabled while driving. Throw a pile of books on the passenger seat and now the pile of books can choose a new destination...ahem I mean your passenger :)
 
no complaints if they did :D

I wear my seatbelt all the time but when I'm in places like drivethroughs or close to my destination I usually take it off, I don't need the damn thing beeping at me when I do decide to take it off ;) let alone be able to get it out of my way in the first place if they were automatic.

I agree with what I assume you're implying, seatbelt awareness does need to be increased, but I still think forcing it (past the extent of giving tickets) is wrong.

They already tried that, don't you remember the 90's with the silly motorized belt attached to the door instead of the frame of the car? Seemed like a good idea at the time...until they figured out if the door was ripped off in an accident it would take the passenger with it. Opppsy.

Anyway, the defrost thing is reasonable. People are too stupid to turn it on themselves and defrost isn't very effective when it blows moist air on the inside of the glass...it just fogs up from the inside while your trying to clear the outside. If they didn't turn on the A/C people would just complain it didn't work. I like the one-touch solution personally but I do understand your point. I used to leave it on defrost/floor because I wanted heat up top, just not blowing in my face.

As for the GPS system....there should definitely be a way to unlock it because a passenger can always make changes while you are driving. For example, while enroute you may be interested in stopping for lunch. Without stopping in the middle of the highway, how can you find where the closest restaurant is?

Now if they were really smart, they'd tap into the passenger airbag sensor (the one that determines the weight of the front passenger to see whether it should deploy the airbag). If the sensor doesn't pick up anything, the unit is disabled while driving. Throw a pile of books on the passenger seat and now the pile of books can choose a new destination...ahem I mean your passenger :)

Ok, automatic A/C when on defrost is fine but let me turn it off! I honestly don't know how it works yet in the MS6 but my MSP it wouldn't indicate that the A/C was on (when it obviously kicked in) which also meant you couldn't turn it off.

I'm like you, I normally have it on floor/defrost setting, I don't care to lose a good chunk of gas mileage because some people aren't smart enough to know how to work their car.

And yeah, I vaguely remember the autobelts, I thought those were cool when I was little haha.
 
That's a good idea - anybody know which wire that would be?

Its supposed to be the White wire coming out the cable from the rear dvd player in the glove box. Tap that wire ( T-Tap ) and run it to a switch. Take the other end of that switch and connect it to ground.

Now i heard that you dont have very long with the switch engaged to enter your data because the GPS sensor loses track of your location. So you will have to toggle it off after you set your destination. Im going to try this over the weekend and see how it works.
 
Its supposed to be the White wire coming out the cable from the rear dvd player in the glove box. Tap that wire ( T-Tap ) and run it to a switch. Take the other end of that switch and connect it to ground.

Now i heard that you dont have very long with the switch engaged to enter your data because the GPS sensor loses track of your location. So you will have to toggle it off after you set your destination. Im going to try this over the weekend and see how it works.

So by using that wire you're completely disabling the gps and speed sensors? I would think that they would have seperate inputs into the brain - maybe not.

Anybody got a wiring schematic of the NAV system?
 
Anyone figure this out yet?
I can't understand why they would give you a remote for the navigation that a passenger can use if they won't let you use it while you are moving.
 
I'm really starting to get annoyed with manufacturers forcing us to use the car they way they want. It first started in my MSP where if I'm using any defrost settings, or just the floor setting it automatically turns on the A/C and doesn't allow me to turn it off. Now we can't use a $2,000 navi unit when the car is moving? Like someone said, if you have a passenger with you they could control it and you'd still be "safe".

Dude, the whole point of the having the AC run with the defrost on is that it uses the systems evaporator to remove moisture from the air. Maybe you've never a run a car without the AC unit engaged...ie. older cars from the 80's/early 90's.......cold air comes into the car warmed, moist and hits the cold windows and freezes on the inside. Thus the reason why most all cars operate the way they do. Ask around why folks back in the day would carry around rags to wipe the inside of their windows even when the defrost was on.

In fact you'll see this today and can tell if a cars AC is broken...typically it's a POS that's all fogged up while it's raining out and the owners is constantly looking through hand print wipes on their front and side windows. With no AC, they are simply throwing moisture up on the inside of their windows.

Also, running the AC doesn't kill your mpg's. That topic has been beaten to death in every forum around. Again, in today's cars, the compressor isn't always engaged. It cycles on and off only when needed, but yes, the light is lit to show the AC is active and the car is then able to take advantage of it. The issue would likely go away if the light cycled on and off, but then a whole series of misunderstandings about that would be alive. Same thing with zapping power. At WOT, the system shuts down the AC unit to make use of all the cars power. Around town not in WOT mode, you won't miss the power the system pulls. Although in the case of my MS3, I have to adjust my shifting as rpms drop a tad faster with the AC on and thus my right foot has to be applied a little quicker and with slightly more pressure for smooth shifts.
 
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I know a lot of new Navi system don't use the e-brake wire to work. They are using the GPS antenna itself. If the navi and GPS detect moving then it goes in safe mode.
 
The manual for our nav, however, explains it uses a combination of the antenna as well as speed sensors, specifically to use in tunnels and cities and such. But no doubt also to govern your use of it while it moves. Most hardwired aftermarket navs (Alpine, for example) uses the e-brake at times, but more for the settings and involved functions that really WOULD turn you into a road hazard if you were adjusting those rather than watching the damn road....
 

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