With EPA certification hopefully coming soon, can we put an over / under on what the MPG figures will be?
I'm half tempted to start a poll and see what people think it'll come in at.
will we see the mythical 40mpg???
this could kind of fun
In the motormouth video with the Canadian PR lady she mentions the diesel already passing the EPA (0:50) so it seems that hurdle is already passed as well. The conditional certification also allows Mazda to go ahead and start production of vehicles now. They have a period of time, 180 days, to make OBII calibration changes to fully comply to Carb requests. They then have 4 weeks, after carb approves the changes to implement changes (software calibration) in the form of voluntary recall for those vehicles already on the road. In light of that it may not take that many months for Mazda to ship vehicles here, depending on how production-ready they are.
Well, 188/332 is kindof impressive. I'm curious what it means in the real world for performance. That said, here, diesel is expensive, so the mpg isn't a motivator at all from the $$ standpoint, but it sure would be nice to have a vehicle with decent highway range again.
2021? WRX Sti
2019 RAV4
2030? CX5D/CX5SA-X
My short list.
Epa figures I'm thinking 27/37 give or take 1 for awd..real world with kaps as my driver..50 all day long(rofl)
Diesel is more expensive now in CA because the legislatures F'd us a few months ago and started taxing the crap out of it. (we tax the hell out of things we don't like here in California. (rant) ) With that said, cost could still play a role here given the expected increases in fuel economy and range.That said, here, diesel is expensive, so the mpg isn't a motivator at all from the $$ standpoint, but it sure would be nice to have a vehicle with decent highway range again.
totally agree.
my girlfriend drives 2.5 miles to work each morning. If I had her commute, I'd drive some obnoxious HEMI powered monster because...well... why not.
with my commute, I think I'd quickly realize the benefits of the 2.2D over the 2.5.
who knows.
we'll see if I have the patience to keep waiting for this unicorn.
I'm guessing 2019 MY arriving in early-mid fall this yr- thanks for that vid dougal..Cute chick talking diesel..just doesn't get much better than that!(spin)--fine she maybe more nerdy than cute but she totally had me at diesel.
That said, here, diesel is expensive
Diesel is more expensive now in CA because the legislatures F'd us a few months ago and started taxing the crap out of it. (we tax the hell out of things we don't like here in California. (rant) ) With that said, cost could still play a role here given the expected increases in fuel economy and range.
Some rough math:
- 87 Octane is $3.39 per gallon
- Diesel is $3.59 per gallon
- $.20 difference results in roughly a 6% premium on diesel over 87 octane
2018 CX-5 AWD = 24/30 mpg
Assuming a 10% greater efficiency with Diesel = 26/33 mpg
20% increase in fuel efficienty = 29/36 mpg
That could potentially be a total range of 550 miles! (15.3 gallons x 36 mpg)
Cost:
2018 AWD CX-5 in Machine Gray with Premium Package = $33,615
Diesel engine cost of 10 - 15% premium = additional $3361 - $5,042.
New cost of the vehicle goes up to: $36,976 - $38,657
Bottom line: I'd be paying about 10% more for the car and roughly 6% more for the fuel but could potentially see 20% greater fuel economy. Hmmmm.....
Not to mention more torque, probably better driveability, and the benefits of extended range. I drive about 100 miles per day so for me it might be worth getting.
totally agree.
my girlfriend drives 2.5 miles to work each morning. If I had her commute, I'd drive some obnoxious HEMI powered monster because...well... why not.