Unichip for MS-MX5

[thunder]

There is also the MPI Tuner that lets you do the mapping yourself (with a laptop):
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76825
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77141

 

[thunder]

Muohio sells those units....? I don't think so....

That was just a guess since he seems so emotional about it

 

[rx7gslse]

There is also the MPI Tuner that lets you do the mapping yourself (with a laptop):
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76825
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77141

So does an e-manage... Each of these systems allow the user to tune the car for his *specific* application of various mods... I've still yet to hear exactly what this "unichip" even does..

And FWIW, yes, the MSM does hit a fuel cut at 10psi... Someone's already discovered that using an MBC.

 

[thunder]

So does an e-manage... Each of these systems allow the user to tune the car for his *specific* application of various mods... I've still yet to hear exactly what this "unichip" even does..

And FWIW, yes, the MSM does hit a fuel cut at 10psi... Someone's already discovered that using an MBC.

They are basically fuel management units. The MPI Tuner lets you do your own adjustments (fuel and spark), the Unichip doesn't (you have to send it back everytime). Some people are trying E-Manage but it seems quite complicated... The MPI Tuner should be quite easy to adapt to the Miata/MX5.

I've still yet to hear exactly what this "unichip" even does..

I've been tryin' to figure out this myself too, but in vain..... That was "my point" LOL

 

[muohio]

That was just a guess since he seems so emotional about it

I really don't have any emotions about it. I just feel that your statements are highly uneducated when speaking about a product. I have watched this board for a couple years now and I see newbs jump on the board all the time question things that they don't know about. The questions and reasons behind them are over analyzed and then it all has to start over again. It's like you are the slow kid that has to have it explained all over again for the 10th time. I hate being an ass and rarely show it on this board, but thunder you seem to draw it out in big doses.

 

[SonicRacer]

So does an e-manage... Each of these systems allow the user to tune the car for his *specific* application of various mods... I've still yet to hear exactly what this "unichip" even does..

And FWIW, yes, the MSM does hit a fuel cut at 10psi... Someone's already discovered that using an MBC.

What the "Unichip" does has been explained numerous times on this message baord and even in this thread. Unichip is not new to EMS units and tuning, they are just new to Mazda applications.

Perhaps some reasearch time on your end would be bennificitial to you guys. :shrug:



The MSP has a fuel cut also, they are easily removed with piggy-back EMS units.

 

[rx7gslse]

What the "Unichip" does has been explained numerous times on this message baord and even in this thread. Unichip is not new to EMS units and tuning, they are just new to Mazda applications.

Perhaps some reasearch time on your end would be bennificitial to you guys. :shrug:



The MSP has a fuel cut also, they are easily removed with piggy-back EMS units.

Oh I've read the thread... If you'd read you'll see I've already made my mind up to go with the more powerful e-manage unit myself. I was just curious more on what parameters were changed.. They more or less answered the question when they said you have to sent it back each time... It changes by the application.

For the cost, the PITA of sending it there and back, I just don't see the advantage of this over a unit you can program yourself.. Especially if it cost half as much??

(scratch)

 

[thunder]

I really don't have any emotions about it. I just feel that your statements are highly uneducated when speaking about a product. I have watched this board for a couple years now and I see newbs jump on the board all the time question things that they don't know about. The questions and reasons behind them are over analyzed and then it all has to start over again. It's like you are the slow kid that has to have it explained all over again for the 10th time. I hate being an ass and rarely show it on this board, but thunder you seem to draw it out in big doses.

I will believe that the "product" is sound for the MSP the day I see a comparison chart showing stock (100%) vs the chipped car without any boost dialed in. It is that simple (and, oh yeah, uneducated!). You thow in the boost and it is impossible to tell if there is a gain other than the added psi (no matter what you say). You say it's all about boostin' safely, allright at 13 psi maybe but IT HAS NEVER BEEN MY POINT!!! Corksport released dyno sheets, the first ones (Dyno Sheet #1 Dyno Sheet #2) and any "slow kid" like me (you'd be surprised if you knew me LOL) can see that the extra power comes on exactly when the boost kiks in. I don't want to argue with you, I will never dare to do so with such an enlighted expert, I just shared my thoughts with the board so people think twice about shellin' out 900$ without any questions. Also, I'm not saying that the product is bad (Unichip works very nicely with many cars) as I don't know but without any sound logical explanations I remain skeptical. And yes, this newbie has read extensively about the Unichip on this board (for almost a year) and after the mixed reviews it has received, this has only strengthened my skeptisism. Lastly, about "newbies" like me, you seem to make face-value judgements based on the number of posts people have written... That doesn't make much sense!

As a reminder, this was my first post and after that you kept jumpin' on me!

Originally Posted by thunder
I'm almost stock, I'm flashed and my MSP is quite smooth, very, very little jerking (depends on weather) and since I changed my midpipe I have a better gas milage too, very similar to your numbers....
Why Unichip/CorkSport doesn't publish a dyno sheet stock VS stock for REAL comparison? Or, if they must up the boost for whatever reason, then the comparison should be made with a boosted (MBC or EBC) car IMO!
Just my 875$...

Your 1st (flaming) answer

If you think that the entire point of the Unichip was to increase the boost and give comparable hp to a boost controller, then you have totaly missed the point of the product.

What was so wrong with my question? (BTW my car runs very nicely after just a little tweaking) Can we get reasonable answers from reasonable questions? Is this a power trip or somethin'?

 

[rx7gslse]

need I remind you guys that this thread is about teh MSM and not the MSP... You guys can discuss teh merits of teh gains of the unichip on the MSP elsewhere....

 

[thunder]

You are absolutely right!

 

[SonicRacer]

Oh yeah, the jerkiness is taken away (I tend to forget about that due to me never having that issue). There's actually been 3 people who have bought the Unichip here in Portland after they went for a ride in my car.

Someone even said the price was worth it JUST to remove the jerky acceleration. haha


Does anyone know if the MSM even has any running issues like that?

 

[rx7gslse]

Does anyone know if the MSM even has any running issues like that?

Well I haven't ridden in a stock MSP, but the only small complaint I have is that the MSM does seem to bog a bit under part throttle when it's cold.. After a minute or so I've never seen any issue..

Only time I notice it is pulliing out of my office onto the 55mph street infront of it. I'm not hitting much boost as it's still cold, but feels sluggish..


Although, that's probably intentional... Other than the extremely RICH condition at full throttle it runs smoothly.

 

[thunder]

I don't know if this can be of any help but with my MSP I've noticed an improvement when I switched to NGK Iridium plugs (pregapped -pretty wide at 1.1 mm). Before there was some carbon buildup on the bumper (the lip) and now there isn't any after 5000 km. It also felt better, pulling a bit harder. My guess that the bigger spark improves combustion thus reducing hesitation. Last week I checked the plugs and they are fine as they should be (tan colored whith clean center electrode). It's not very expensive and my car runs very smooth now...
PS: The MSM has the Denso Iridiums gapped at 0.8 (0.032")