CommieSpeed
Member
- :
- 2003.5 Titanium-Gray Mazdaspeed Protege
Failure to deliver my SMIC by 5pm today will result in me unleashing a plague of locusts upon thee. I will be waiting by the South bridge....do not be late.
TurboHoses SMIC- **********.com (Updates)
- Thread starter StreetUnit
- Start date
StreetUnit
Banned
- :
- 2003.5 MSP
This SMIC is a direct factory replacement for the MSP. 10-12 lbs, thats a judgement call on whether you think your rods can hold up.Doodsmack said:
speedhawaii
Member
circuit sports got theirs out for a good price already and its dynoed too. i wanna see this one already.
spicynamja
Member
- :
- 2003 Spicy Orange MSP
bump for updates... ^_^
speedhawaii
Member
its been around 10-14 days (lol2)********** said:
4
4001
This is what is on Turbohoses.com
"Our R&D dept. will be releasing product results during the week of 8/15/04 and order will be filled late to early Sept./04."
"Our R&D dept. will be releasing product results during the week of 8/15/04 and order will be filled late to early Sept./04."
talked to turbohoses.they said "hopefully this week"
that is a good sign for you guys.you can't rush these guys they are very busy,and the quility will impress the s*** out of you.if you don't believe me check the pics on thier site.
it's the same core that is used in the spearco intercoolers.
that is a good sign for you guys.you can't rush these guys they are very busy,and the quility will impress the s*** out of you.if you don't believe me check the pics on thier site.
it's the same core that is used in the spearco intercoolers.
If you look at the cars that use the very large FMICs they are boosting 15 to 30 psi. Our car (this is my opinion I don't want a thread war) will run more efficiently with a quality SMIC. An upgraded SMIC will have a smaller pressure drop than a FMIC, which is very underrated due to the fact that pressure drop reduces the efficiency of the turbo. With the T25 and even the GT28 r and rs turbos efficiency is very important because neither of these are monster turbos. If you plan on beefing up your internals and running the type of PSI hiboost is running on their P5 or more then an FMIC might be the right decision for you. In my opinion (once again I don't want a thread war), having an FMIC is more for the show aspect in our cars because the cooling effect is going to be offset by the larger pressure drop. This is just like the arguement between CAI and SRI, everyone has their opinion of what is better.
Interesting. Is the data out there for the pressure drop of the major intercoolers? Hiboost, ion, etc? Does anyone know what it will be for this one? I'm not trying to argue with you, but it would be cool if someone could validate that statement with some hard data.(2thumbs)jurgs01 said:
I have a hiboost setup and there is no pressure drop with this system. Also spool time has increased. I too was concerned about pressure drop because of the length of the piping but after installing and driving with FMIC. I have found the pressure drop theory not be true. Hence why people with FMIC have shown gains instead of loosing power. The stock SMIC is just not efficent enough. Though efficency should go up with hardpipes and a thicker SMIC it cannot be compared to a FMIC.peepsalot said:
-Alan
Even though the best way to measure an IC would be to measure flow rate in versus air flow rate out and air temp in versus air temp out none of the dealers are going to do this. What you do know is the CFM flow rate of the IC, the dyno sheet they will give (which can be biased because the only thing that most will understand is the max WHP gain at a certain RPM which is not the most important factor), and if they are good they will give you consecutively dynoed runs to show that the IC is efficient even when the car gets hot. In reality, anything is an upgrade to the factory IC. It is good enough for a stock car at 6psi, but definately not efficient for an upgraded car. I read somewhere that the pressure drop is 3psi (not validated), but if that is true then you are losing 3psi of pressure from the turbo till after it comes out the IC. That is horrible for the short runs of piping. It sounds like turbohoses is putting their IC through pretty intensive testing, though I'm not sure of that either. It's been almost 4 weeks since the prototype was done, and if they wanted to they could just sell them without much testing and probably get a good amount of orders (just look at the kits that have already come out). I've seen many threads asking for numbers and no actual data put out buy the vendors. People still buy it. If I'm going to put an FMIC on my car and I'm racing then I would be pushing 20-25 psi, because that's what people are going to be expecting when they see that big FMIC under the car. You get the STI, old Supras, EVOs and Skylines from Japan that can hold that type of pressure no prob, and you come in with a weak MSP that can't handle over 12-15 psi without extensive tuning. I would rather be the sleeper car.
The only way u can validate that statement that there is no pressure drop is to measure the PSI or flow rate after the turbo then again after the IC. There is always a pressure drop with an IC. I have never seen people gaining much with the Hiboost, and Circuit sports SMIC is gaining about 80% of the WHP as the people dynoing with Hiboost FMIC. I'm sure it's a gain with the FMIC, but you can't compare them unless they are tested in conjunction with very similar conditions.ARunto said:
speedhawaii
Member
and that would be how much more over stock? hopefully the wait will bring good results and great prices 
