Triple Gauge Pod... Autometer vs. Stewart Warner

jmv

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2003 MSP #1475
Can anyone help me decide which of these a-pillar pods to go with?? I'm getting stewart warner gauges, i didn't know if it might make things easier to stay with the same brand. Also, i had read some about the autometer not fitting well unless you leave the stock a-pillar in place, and hook it together with some double-sided tape, is it the same deal for the stewart warner??

Any input is greatly appreciated!!
 
The autometer pod comes with plastic pegs. You can drill a hole in the pillar and just the press the pegs in place. It will not come apart or move after that. All of the pods should work with any guage, just make sure that the openings match the size of the guage.
 
okay, so, i was leaning toward autometer, just cuz it seems like its alot more common than the stewart warner pod... but i can get the stewart warner for $56 shipped, or the autometer for $65 shipped... any thoughts??
 
i have the autometer pillar pod with 3 stewart warner guages.
 

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I recently bought a triple guage autometer pillar, and I'm awaiting the arrival of my Stewart Warner guages. So far I have not attempted to put the pillar in place I've only painted it so I don't know about the fitment of it. But I don't want the pegs showing from the outside....I'd like to know more about this as well.

Edit: Wow those look great! Can't wait to get mine. What paint did you use for the pillar? I found a Krylon paint that matches exactly but it's too glossy. Havn't been able to find it flat. Please tell what paint you used and the number. Thanks

JT
 
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MSPRedDragon said:
I recently bought a triple guage autometer pillar, and I'm awaiting the arrival of my Stewart Warner guages. So far I have not attempted to put the pillar in place I've only painted it so I don't know about the fitment of it. But I don't want the pegs showing from the outside....I'd like to know more about this as well.

Edit: Wow those look great! Can't wait to get mine. What paint did you use for the pillar? I found a Krylon paint that matches exactly but it's too glossy. Havn't been able to find it flat. Please tell what paint you used and the number. Thanks

JT

Mazda Forums - Perfect Pillar Paint
 
mspHtown said:
i have the autometer pillar pod with 3 stewart warner guages.

I was undecided between the Stewart Warner and Summits version of Dakota Digital guages. Hmm the S/W guages realy match out stock guages.

The digital guages are cheap but the S/W match better. I guess this didn't help me decide did it? ;)

My wife likes the digital guages and I like the S.W guages.

Our Summit digital gauges offer precise, easy-to-read measurements. The bright-red LED display appears against a black background on these quality 2 1/16 in. diameter gauges. They're available individually with in-dash mounting hardware or in a 3-gauge panel.

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and

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OR

These Stewart Warner Maximum Performance Series analog gauges feature silver, white and black graphics and super-tough engineered resin cases. They also have unique inner and outer bezels, robust three-dimensional pointers, and advanced SMT electronics and lighting techniques. You get the best performance with the most stylish look for a killer combo that can't be beat!


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and I say again; don't buy cheap gauges.

let's see if someone actually pays attention this time.

edit: that came out wrong. don't let price be any sort of factor in buying a monitoring tool.
 
t3ase said:
and I say again; don't buy cheap gauges.

let's see if someone actually pays attention this time.

edit: that came out wrong. don't let price be any sort of factor in buying a monitoring tool.


You have my attention

Whats your opinion on the S/W guages

These Stewart Warner Maximum Performance Series analog gauges feature silver, white and black graphics and super-tough engineered resin cases. They also have unique inner and outer bezels, robust three-dimensional pointers, and advanced SMT electronics and lighting techniques. You get the best performance with the most stylish look for a killer combo that can't be beat!
 
Well, you're asking someone who just bought a $350 wideband to monitor air/fuel ratios.

I've preached in the MSP section for quite some time about Autometer gauges and such being inaccurate. Personally, I wouldn't trust a $23 A/F gauge. Nor a $100 one. To me, a gauge is there to serve one purpose, which is allowing you to monitor your car. If that result is not exact or totally off, what's the purpose? I've seen thread after thread about Autometer and like gauges being off, losing calibration, randomly not reading anything, breaking internally, etc.

I can't speak for the SW gauges, but I just like to preach my little 'dont rely on cheap stuff to monitor an expensive investment' rant.
 
Now, I know paying a higher price doesnt always mean you get a better part. However, I threw down $150 or so back in 2003 for a Blitz i-D series gauge that I've *never* had issues with. And that's after moving it around from car to car, dropping it accidentally, being installed/removed numerous times, etc. I'd like to try that with an Autometer or similar 'cheaper' gauge.
 
t3ase said:
Now, I know paying a higher price doesnt always mean you get a better part. However, I threw down $150 or so back in 2003 for a Blitz i-D series gauge that I've *never* had issues with. And that's after moving it around from car to car, dropping it accidentally, being installed/removed numerous times, etc. I'd like to try that with an Autometer or similar 'cheaper' gauge.


Check out this wideband

http://www.widebandcommander.com/
 
Thanks for the link t3sae. I just ordered an AEM wideband, but it's back ordered right now, but that's ok. Good price on it and it looks like a good one.
 
hmmm. you have a good point, t3ase. I dunno, i guess going with the stewart warner works for me, cuz i don't have much money, and i doubt i'd be doing gauges any time soon if it was $250-$350 per gauge. I guess its better to have SOME form of monitoring, even if it may not be the most accurate (although it seems like i've heard good things of stewart warner), rather than nothing at all. But i see where you're coming from.
 
Anything that is mass produced is going to have a few problems. That said I have never had 1 problem with my Autometer guages. If they truely sucked ass, they would be out of business. But they are thriving and will continue to do so. Because the make products that are both functional and affordable. I personally would not use their A/F guage as its not practical for its purpose. I have over 80,000 miles combined on my two boost guages and they work perfectly.
 
Has anyone thought about just painting the other pillar (stock pillar) black? I think black might look better than gray.
 
eh, I've actually thought about killing all tan, er "light titanium", in the car completely and dying everything pillar/headliner wise a black.

havent had the urge to follow through on it though
 
DAWIV said:
Anything that is mass produced is going to have a few problems. That said I have never had 1 problem with my Autometer guages. If they truely sucked ass, they would be out of business. But they are thriving and will continue to do so. Because the make products that are both functional and affordable. I personally would not use their A/F guage as its not practical for its purpose. I have over 80,000 miles combined on my two boost guages and they work perfectly.
Heh, I quite understand the process of manufacturing goods and quality issues. Thanks.

However, when you work in the aftermarket car field, you see and learn more than the 'average person' about not only products but their true quality after time. Autometer has yet to surprise me with the end result; it's a cheap gauge.

I've stated before and I'll say it again, I'll never have an Autometer gauge in a car of mine. I just advise others that spending more money on something that could possibly save their engine or themselves is something they may want to do. The same argument comes from me about cheap gauges as about eBay seats or harnesses. You just need to buy higher grade stuff sometimes.

Autometer will never go out of business because the "tuning community" is all about cheap mods. Hell, just look at the amount of people bitching about MAM's tubular manifold pricing. I'd pay that price when I have ajob again. Some will not. That does NOT mean a cheaper and thusly more popular manifold is better or even close to the level of the more expensive one, though.

I've installed several boost, a few of their 'disco light' a/f monitors, and pressure gauges in several cars, not just Mazdas. I'd say 80% of the installs came back to upgrade to another brand. This is not only on "performance" and "tuner" cars but lifted trucks, jeeps, stock cars for dealerships, etc.

Personally, I've had three boost gauges in my car at once; the 60mm Blitz, a 52mm Autometer, and the Apexi AVC-R. The Blitz was *dead on* with matching the AVC-R's readings. The Autometer was constantly off by 1-3psi. Maybe to some of you who won't exceed close to stock booost levels that won't matter. I was hitting around 18psi for a while, so accuracy DID matter. Thinking it may just be the gauge, we used another boost gauge out of a different MSP; same results but was around 2psi off constantly.

I cant even imagine what could happen by depending on their A/F ratio gauges to save your car.

Maybe you guys don't drive the s*** out of your cars and a simple gauge may suffice. I do, and I prefer to have exact instruments to help me feel better doing so.

I have had no experience with SW gauges, and I looked at them when I was buying my boost gauge. I'd like to try one out someday with the AVC-R to test it. Until then, I'll enjoy knowing *exactly* what my car's reading, not just an estimated guess. If I wanted that, I'd go pick up a hooker and tell her to randomly smack me in the head while I'm driving so I'll keep out of boost.
 
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Whatever. I am just stating that my guages work fine. Don't try to make it seem like all Autometer guages have problems. They don't. I drive the hell out of my car and it still has the original LSD and clutch. 52,600 miles and going strong. And the autometer guage works perfectly.
 

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