This car is a bad idea
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I had a great piece of advice when I got my first RX-7...."Before you make it go faster, make sure it can stop & go through turns without winding up in a ditch." My MSP handles exactly the way I want it to....ON RAILS...and that to me is a good starting point.
CommieSpeed
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- 2003.5 Titanium-Gray Mazdaspeed Protege
Yeah guys seriously...go look at all the other boards for recently released sport compacts...everyone but the SRT4 boys are blowin' their engines way more than we are...and have more random problems that make the "clunk" look like nothing. I don't boost over 10 psi and with other mods I seem to smoke 90% of the cars on the road. Once I get into the twisties most people don't have the balls to keep up...or the grip. If you really wanna be invincible just drop another grand and forge the internals. I LOVE MY MSP!!! BRAWRBRAWRR...PSSSTTTTT...GOBBLE GOBBLE...PSSSSTTTTT
spoolinmp3 said:
WoW, that was the most uninformed post i have ever read.
Being a Honda Tuner i think i would know what the motors can take and not take. I can defently tell you that Honda Motors can take 9lbs of boost daily. Depending on the motor is depending on the weakness.
Any 1.8 non vtec motors out of RS/LS and GS integra are wicked to boost. the rods are the strongest rods that honda have built and can withstand alot of boost. Its mainly the pistons that are weak. but they are only weak if you daily ride the boost higher then 9lbs. I know a few people who have backyard turbo setups and only have a FPR stock injectors and pump and run great w/ 9lbs of boost. The major thing that probably goes is the clutch if its not changed
Not all honda's have higher then normal CR, Type R yes.. but why would u boost it.. GS-R Can handle boost 10.1:1 CR pistons but obviouly nothing more then 7lbs, SiR 11.2:1 CR you'll need to get lower compresion pistons or get a thicker head gastket, RSX-S, 10:1 obvious.. very similar to the GS-R. Those are the highest of high CR motors out there except for s2000 cuz i don't know the CR.. all the others are in the 9's and maybe one or 2 in the 8's.
Probably the weakest motor to boost would be the b20 out of the CRV. 2.0L motor is basicly a 1.8 motor bored to 2.0L. The biggest problem with it is the cylinder walls being to thin. you need to resleave that puppy if you even think of boosting it.. what eventually happens is that you'll cracking cylinders. Which is probably where spoolinmp3 got his info.
So ya before making an edjamacated guess and being completly wrong.. Research..
thats my 2 cents.
Glowmunkey
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w00dy said:WoW, that was the most uninformed post i have ever read.
Being a Honda Tuner i think i would know what the motors can take and not take. I can defently tell you that Honda Motors can take 9lbs of boost daily. Depending on the motor is depending on the weakness.
Any 1.8 non vtec motors out of RS/LS and GS integra are wicked to boost. the rods are the strongest rods that honda have built and can withstand alot of boost. Its mainly the pistons that are weak. but they are only weak if you daily ride the boost higher then 9lbs. I know a few people who have backyard turbo setups and only have a FPR stock injectors and pump and run great w/ 9lbs of boost. The major thing that probably goes is the clutch if its not changed
Not all honda's have higher then normal CR, Type R yes.. but why would u boost it.. GS-R Can handle boost 10.1:1 CR pistons but obviouly nothing more then 7lbs, SiR 11.2:1 CR you'll need to get lower compresion pistons or get a thicker head gastket, RSX-S, 10:1 obvious.. very similar to the GS-R. Those are the highest of high CR motors out there except for s2000 cuz i don't know the CR.. all the others are in the 9's and maybe one or 2 in the 8's.
Probably the weakest motor to boost would be the b20 out of the CRV. 2.0L motor is basicly a 1.8 motor bored to 2.0L. The biggest problem with it is the cylinder walls being to thin. you need to resleave that puppy if you even think of boosting it.. what eventually happens is that you'll cracking cylinders. Which is probably where spoolinmp3 got his info.
So ya before making an edjamacated guess and being completly wrong.. Research..
thats my 2 cents.
I thought that was an interesting post too... maybe spoolinmp3 should come see our 8 psi supercharged '99 Prelude. H22's have been proven to take that and more safely.
And who paid 21-22K for their MazdaSpeed?? I know my dad just bought a 2003.5 (guess he liked mine a lot) for 16,200 at like 3%...
Toyo Kogyo
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gene in cincinnati said:
Too bad it weighs 3500 pounds. Horespower to weight anyone? I've been running 16 psi for almost a year now, everyday.
Toyo Kogyo
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cbcbd said:
Lol, that was me. I ended up paying 24k for my Mazdaspeed after I was 4k upside down in the other Protege I traded in.
yeah..me too...I expected them to go off the lot like the MP3's....so I had a deposit down in Oct. 2002, and paid 20K at the end of Jan '03 for my MSP....8 moths later there was a new black mica on their lot for less than 16K!...oh well....I got burned w/ price, but I still love my car!Toyo Kogyo said:
