The difference between MSP and Racing Beat springs. Pics.
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The MSP springs were designed to be used with MSP struts, whose spring perch is mounted differently than stock struts (and other Tokico struts). Therefore your sedan will sit lower in the rear than a stock MSP.
If you cut your front coils, the springs may not fit tight between their mounts, so if you go weightless over a rise or your front suspension is otherwise fully extended, the springs could pop out of their mounting location, which would be bad. This may be an issue in the rear also, using MSP springs on stock struts, but I don't know for sure.
You would be better off buying a different set of springs or getting the MSP struts, althought they're pretty steep at $460 (from onlinemazdaparts.com), to better complement the MSP springs you already have.
The MSP also has a different weight distribution than other sedans and P5s, so in that sense it's suspension is not optimized for other cars. Hope this helps.
If you cut your front coils, the springs may not fit tight between their mounts, so if you go weightless over a rise or your front suspension is otherwise fully extended, the springs could pop out of their mounting location, which would be bad. This may be an issue in the rear also, using MSP springs on stock struts, but I don't know for sure.
You would be better off buying a different set of springs or getting the MSP struts, althought they're pretty steep at $460 (from onlinemazdaparts.com), to better complement the MSP springs you already have.
The MSP also has a different weight distribution than other sedans and P5s, so in that sense it's suspension is not optimized for other cars. Hope this helps.
There's a photo of a Tokico Illumina rear strut next to an MSP rear strut in this thread. Stock struts and Tokico HPs and Illuminas all have the same spring perch location, so the photo indicates the difference in height for your case as well.
this is the picture:
don't focus on the overall strut body length, but look at the height of the spring perch fromt he floor. thats why when MSP springs are mounted on non-MSP struts the rear is too low. (MSP's have the rear too low anyway, and this exaggerates it)
don't focus on the overall strut body length, but look at the height of the spring perch fromt he floor. thats why when MSP springs are mounted on non-MSP struts the rear is too low. (MSP's have the rear too low anyway, and this exaggerates it)
rustychops41
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TeamMazda said:
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No pics, I think it is detailed in TheMan's Protege FAQ under suspension mods, scroll down, it's about "clunking." I don't think the washers affect the ride height at all, it just puts more load on the spring even at full droop. Regardless of all the MSP/MP3/RB/Tokico variables, I think any BJ Protege chassis owner can't go wrong with any of the struts/springs/swaybars in this category/thread. I just helped out a complete suspension buildup on a '91 Miata, and using Koni's and 97+ upper mounts requires all sorts of drilling out of washers etc. It's nice to really "bolt stuff on" like the Mazda goodies.TeamMazda said:
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JoshP5 said:
So if you installed I MP3 strut on a P5 with a P5 spring would it change the ride height up or down or the rear of the car?
So basically if you have a MP3 and you replace the shocks with non-OEM units you will be giving up your spring perch positioning and will need to use different springs to avoid rear drop?
I guess what I really want to know is if there are any springs for the P5 that will drop it 1/2" even around with tokico HP's as the shock of choice?
I guess what I really want to know is if there are any springs for the P5 that will drop it 1/2" even around with tokico HP's as the shock of choice?
the actual "Racing Beat" springs
