Tell me what you think of my setup!

[Poseur]

Did you say you ordered an adapter to make 6.5 fi in a 5x7 hole? would you mind linking that up? Are you sure it's going to work right? thing is I've not seen a 5x7-6 adapter commercially marketed.

As far as speaklers, I'm kindof a fan of kickers recent components. I realyl think they're kinda an off-the-map item. Kicker's not really known for sound quality, and they're too big to be taken seriously, but their components really agree with my ears. ESPECIALLY those RS's of which you speak. They've got the same wonderful tweeter I'm happy to hear from everyday.

However, I'm gonna broken record the fact that there's no need for rear speakers. If you want for now I'd put your new ones upfront with an amp, leave stock off of deck power int he back and see how it goes. Especially in a P5, rear speakers with power and clarity will only serve to detract from your sound quality.

Should you still decide you need rear speakers, as chuyler said, mount the tweeters coaxially (those kickers will have provisions to doso) putting the rear tweeters up high will be deafening to the front seaters. nothing like having a tweeter 2" from your ear.

II-savy> are you making the assumption that none of us have made our own passive crossovers? I do it primarily for home, it's hardly worth messing with in cars, but I've dealt with a few in the 12v world as well. I can assure you that Chuyler as well is definately familiar with basic crossover topography.

I do appreciate your attempts to help, and do not entirely disagree with you, but your elitist attitude leaves something to be desired. I am certainly not the end-all authority of 12v audio, nor do I claim to be, but many of your statements are relatively baseless, atleast by modern standards and practices. If you're feeling attacked and have your quills up, so do I, but there's truely little good to come of it all.

 

[II-Savy]

II-savy> are you making the assumption that none of us have made our own passive crossovers? I do it primarily for home, it's hardly worth messing with in cars, but I've dealt with a few in the 12v world as well. I can assure you that Chuyler as well is definately familiar with basic crossover topography.

no

I do appreciate your attempts to help, and do not entirely disagree with you, but your elitist attitude leaves something to be desired. I am certainly not the end-all authority of 12v audio, nor do I claim to be, but many of your statements are relatively baseless, atleast by modern standards and practices. If you're feeling attacked and have your quills up, so do I, but there's truely little good to come of it all.

Oh

 

[woodstockstr]

Did you say you ordered an adapter to make 6.5 fi in a 5x7 hole? would you mind linking that up? Are you sure it's going to work right? thing is I've not seen a 5x7-6 adapter commercially marketed.

you can make the plates if you want... not too hard. promise

 

[the tortoise]

Did you say you ordered an adapter to make 6.5 fi in a 5x7 hole? would you mind linking that up? Are you sure it's going to work right? thing is I've not seen a 5x7-6 adapter commercially marketed.

Here's a link to adapters. They're 1/4" thick, which seems reasonable to me.

http://www.mjmautoinnovations.com/sak68t65.htm

I posted this in the 300 budget speaker thread too.

 

[II-Savy]

Here's a link to adapters. They're 1/4" thick, which seems reasonable to me.

http://www.mjmautoinnovations.com/sak68t65.htm

I posted this in the 300 budget speaker thread too.

Interesting, there are so many adapters to install rounds....

 

[chuyler1]

Did I sense sarcasim in that last post?

...I find it more interesting that the website and company that makes them is so obscure. If there was a huge market demand to switch from oval to round, companies like schoche and metra would have them on the shelves of Circuit City, walmart and best buy.

 

[II-Savy]

Did I sense sarcasim in that last post?

...I find it more interesting that the website and company that makes them is so obscure. If there was a huge market demand to switch from oval to round, companies like schoche and metra would have them on the shelves of Circuit City, walmart and best buy.

No no no, come on please! You know me MUCH better than that!

Dude I didn't say it was a HUGE market. There is absolutly not a huge market for those adapters. The RX-8 wheels look sweet on a p5.

 

[chuyler1]

Ok ok, truce.

 

[II-Savy]

Ok ok, truce.

Plus I don't know if you know this but.....these go to 11!

LOL

 

[chuyler1]

The sustain...listen to it...
I'm not hearing anything.
You would, though, if it were playing, because it really
... it's famous for its sustain...I mean, you could,
just hold it....</pre>

 

[II-Savy]

The sustain...listen to it...
I'm not hearing anything.
You would, though, if it were playing, because it really
... it's famous for its sustain...I mean, you could,

just hold it....
</PRE>

Marty: Can I look at it?
Nigel: No.
Marty: Don't look at it.
Nigel: No, you've seen enough of that one.

I just started laughing out loud. People were looking at me wondering what the problem is...lol

 

[BKJT05]

Interesting, there are so many adapters to install rounds....

those are the adapters i baught too, we will see how they work when i get the speakers...i think what i am going to do with my speakers are take the cheaper ones i got and put them in the back, then just buy another net osf 6.5's for the front and use the tweeters from the component set i got from ebay. first i think im going to put them in the front and purchase the amp and see how it sounds, i don have many people ride in my car so if i dont need rears i wont get them..thanks

 

[woodstockstr]

Did I sense sarcasim in that last post?

...I find it more interesting that the website and company that makes them is so obscure. If there was a huge market demand to switch from oval to round, companies like schoche and metra would have them on the shelves of Circuit City, walmart and best buy.

we do have them on our shelves, and metra, american international, and all of the other well known kit makers do make these adapters. I have been the floor manager for circuit city for 3 years, the sup. at best buy for 2 years and i am now the msm at HIFI buys and im here to tell you that at each store on of our biggest changes that we did to cars/trucks are conversions to 6.5 componets. not trying to make a big deal out of anything but they sound better

 

[BKJT05]

Is under the back seat of a pro5 a good place to mount the amp im getting? the amp is...I was thinking it would be a bad place cause it would get too hot???

Kicker ZX350.4
>Its going to power the front component system

then when i get the money for my sub/amp combo i was going to mount the other amp under the other rear seat. ???

 

[chuyler1]

Umm, you can't fit anything under the back seat. Did you mean the front seat? There is room under the front seats and it will stay plenty cool.

 

[Poseur]

you can make the plates if you want... not too hard. promise

Do you not pay attn? I assure you, I'm quite familair with making adapters. I've made them for 6's 5's and 4's, and most recently 8's in my car. I was simply curious about the 6.5's being commercially available for the sake of helping ppl solve problems seeingas I know many don't have the access to tools/materials/patience to carryout such things. The truth remains that most high end components arenot made in 5x7, hence the need to use such things. I'm actualyl intrigued by the ones postedup as they have some thickness, may make for a worthwhile purchase.

Actually, as far as that's concerned, I've never been very pleased with 6.5's. They just seem muddy to me. toomuch trying to be accomplished with a single driver. I generally much prefer the sound of 5-1/4's, but the compromise to the masses using a simple 2-way front stage and going with 6.5 components's is a fair one. Just to keep some semblance of low end extension upfront, and the ability to keep sub-localization to a minimum.

 

[Airmack]

Wait, so did you get the comp's yet? If not check out CDT Audio. They make the best speakers in the car audio dept. in my opinion... Also, their x-over's are simply amazing. Even there low-end stuff is good. If your going for SQ then go with CDT; hands down.

 

[Poseur]

those are the adapters i baught too, we will see how they work when i get the speakers...i think what i am going to do with my speakers are take the cheaper ones i got and put them in the back, then just buy another net osf 6.5's for the front and use the tweeters from the component set i got from ebay. first i think im going to put them in the front and purchase the amp and see how it sounds, i don have many people ride in my car so if i dont need rears i wont get them..thanks

Umm, mixing about with tweeters isn't the best of ideas. For one you will want to use the crossover on those 6's to make sure they don't try to reproduce highs. And then you're left with no crossover for the tweeters (which you NEED) also the tweets in those speakers aren't any kind of shining example. they're alright, but not something worth pulling away from their mates...

At that, running just the mid drivers in the rear isn't that bad of a plan, but I still insist that money spent on rear speakers is money thrown away. If the speakers you recieve don't please you, I'd use them upfront anyway and use them to buy you some time to go listen to speakers and decide what sound you like by yourself with your own ears, not specs, someone's opinion, place in a line, etc...

AS for CDT, My experience isthat they're alright, but relatively unrefined. (I've owned several of their sets and multiple configurations of each in an attempt to make myself believe the nethype) Perhaps I've just been spoiled, I've found most of them to be fabulous in that magical female vocal range, but a hint down the register in the male vocals range, they seem to fall apart. I'm also a bit apprehensive of their mix and match approach to things. you simply CANNOT have a single crossover topography that works optimally with a handful of different tweeters and dirvers of varying size and construction.

Essentially, though this just goes to show that different people need different speakers. Some of us in here have similar tastes, but that doesn't mean you will. The best thing you could possibly do is take some familair music around, and listen listenlisten as much as possible to as many speakers as you possibly can. You seema s though you're about to drop a good bit of cash, I highly recommend making an educated decision on your purchase and that does NOT mean read thigns and ask questions and see what ppl say. it means GO LISTEN WITH YOUR EARS... afterall they're the ones that have to live with the decision.

 

[woodstockstr]

Do you not pay attn? I assure you, I'm quite familair with making adapters. I've made them for 6's 5's and 4's, and most recently 8's in my car. I was simply curious about the 6.5's being commercially available for the sake of helping ppl solve problems seeingas I know many don't have the access to tools/materials/patience to carryout such things.



wow.... oh no im getting yelled at on the internet. then just buy the plates.i have never seen a plate that was too thin...

 

[chuyler1]

CDT wins in the "internet hype" category. They are a small company that makes relatively good equipment. However, if you put them on a sound board next to some of their equivalently priced competitors...the truth would come out. They simply are not worth the price.

My wife has the classic series 3-ways in her car. I liked them when I installed them a few years ago but there is really no way to get more bass out of them using the passive crossovers. They come out sounding thin on the bottom, harsh on the top, and bland in the middle (and that is with the lowest tweeter setting and ideal kickpanel mounting). Now they aren't the HD or ES series...but I have heard those also and they simply don't compare to my DLS Iridiums which are in the same price range.