I am pretty sure I remember him saying he has a leaky stock valve. that was my original point. if you have a leaky valve, it's going to help. I'm not 100% sure that he compared the new one to the stocker, cause I know he had a forge before this one, but I am assuming that is the case. I don't doubt his results. he's been 100% honest every time I've delt with him.
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Synapse Hybrid Bov Review
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I am pretty sure I remember him saying he has a leaky stock valve. that was my original point. if you have a leaky valve, it's going to help. I'm not 100% sure that he compared the new one to the stocker, cause I know he had a forge before this one, but I am assuming that is the case. I don't doubt his results. he's been 100% honest every time I've delt with him.
I know, that's why i said "stock to forge to now this, synchronic" and it's nothing personal to driver. My point was that, "if you're buying a bypass valve to pick up horsepower, I'm laughing." 2-3boost=hp from a forge to synchronic sounds a bit much. If it's true then im ordering right away.
well if it helps our tiny turbos operate more in their efficiency rage (21 compressor PSI from what I've read) then it could lower boost and increase horsepower. if there is a boost leak, it could very well raise psi, put the turbo into efficient operation and increase hp by even more!
I just want to see results. What i'm reading in this thread(+2-3psi) plus what i see in the synapse vid(-2psi and 28hp gain) just does not add up or make sense. But i am a noob and still learning so i'm not gonna put my foot waaay down. From my personal experience action or in this case charts or dyno speaks louder than words. In the end..i just wanna see.I don't wanna be pushy so i'll just sit back and wait now. (hmm)
I just want to see results. What i'm reading in this thread(+2-3psi) plus what i see in the synapse vid(-2psi and 28hp gain) just does not add up or make sense. But i am a noob and still learning so i'm not gonna put my foot waaay down. From my personal experience action or in this case charts or dyno speaks louder than words. In the end..i just wanna see.I don't wanna be pushy so i'll just sit back and wait now. (hmm)
did you read the post that was from the synapse people? basically, each turbo has an efficient operating range. ours maxes out at 21 psi I believe. you can push more boost, but you actually make less hp, because the air is so hot coming out of the turbo, that it actually has less oxygen in it (recall from physics class that as you heat air it expands, becoming less dense). without getting too technical on you, the law of diminishing returns is in full effect when it comes to turbos. a more efficient delivery system will releave some of the stress on the turbo, making it work less for boost, which will be realized in colder intake air temperatures (aka denser air) and more ponies. hope this helped!
I believe what you say about our turbo efficiency but does that really apply to this thread? I'm not being a smart ass either. The reason why i ask is cause neither cars pushed close to 21+psi. Anyway, you're probably right though...i'll most likely ended up just trying it.
turbo efficiency comes into play if there is a leak. the turbo could be pushing more psi to make it look like it's normal, because some of the air is leaking. close the leak, the turbo doesn't have to work as hard, and efficiency goes up! you don't have to be at the maximum level for this to be the case.
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i don't see this on PG website, is this available and how much is it?
turbo efficiency comes into play if there is a leak. the turbo could be pushing more psi to make it look like it's normal, because some of the air is leaking. close the leak, the turbo doesn't have to work as hard, and efficiency goes up! you don't have to be at the maximum level for this to be the case.
So if he gained a whopping 2-3psi does that mean his forge valve was leaking??
i don't see this on PG website, is this available and how much is it?
http://siteground207.com/~protegeg/product_info.php?cPath=183_289&products_id=1123
So if he gained a whopping 2-3psi does that mean his forge valve was leaking??
I'm not sure, I'd have to see dashhawk evidence of this. he's always saying how all these different parts are making his boost go up and down, but I haven't experienced that effect with anything I've put on, other than when I put my intercooler and bypass valve on I know I spike 1psi higher... nothing to write home about.
also, the ECU reads boost at the turbo outlet, and when you put a boost gauge in, you read it at the intake manifold. it's two different boost pressures. tough to interpret results this way, but a dyno is a dyno. there's no arguing. I'd like to see two dynos on the same day... one with a forge and one with this one. that would tell the whole story.
see it's not even expensive. if you're wondering what it does, just buy it!
tough to interpret results this way, but a dyno is a dyno. there's no arguing. I'd like to see two dynos on the same day... one with a forge and one with this one. that would tell the whole story.
I couldn't agree enough. Btw..."just buy it!" Lol, you ballin to be able to put it like that. Sure it's cheap for a valve, but $200 is still $200 haha. Plus i'm saving up for that rebuilt ko4....still waiting on reviews.
what kind of adapter would I need with that?
just buy it and find out!
jkjk I think I heard the hks one works? or you need 2 of them or something. someone else will be better at this one than I am.
You need two if you get the GReddy style flange. If you get the HKS, I assume its just the same as the HKS kit for our car, with a snap ring. If you get the GReddy, you need another flange to bolt the Synapse to the GReddy flange.
there you have it folks!
what kind of adapter would I need with that?
According to an email I received from Synapse, they are about a week away from the direct flange adapter for the MS3. I will be waiting for that to come out before I by the Synapse BOV. I am actually pretty excited to try this out, as I am very intrigued by the way it operates.
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