Switching to a spin-on filter

djltoronto said:
I'm not sure I'm buying into the statement that you linked


On Mazda 6's with 2.3L engines, with spin on type oil filters, mazda still recomends 5W20 oil.

Same thing with Mazda3i with the same spin-on filter.

I think the difference in oil viscosity between Japan and here has less to do with oil pressure and more to do with engine emmissions.
 
bbrich57 said:
RonH said:
I'll keep my cartridge filter since it's fun watching the oil jockey have to remove the plastic cover, remove the filter and re-install everything...

Hey Ron you may change your mind when the mindless oil jockey loses one or more of the screw/bolts that hold it on and replaces them (or not) with what ever they can find hanging around.
(boom04)
As a former owner of a '57 Chevy with a 283 (don't get too excited, it was a long time ago. The car is long gone after a fatal wreck) AND the cartridge oil filter, I would be happy to get rid of mine. I had more problems with misaligned gaskets, tightening them too much or not enough and oil leaks with that thing. I finally installed a newer 327 w/spin on and couldn't have been happier. (rei)


Speaking of old Chevrolet small blocks, the early '55 265 ci Chevy V8's didn't even come with an oil filter. The dealer's had to tell the customers who had bought one that 300 miles a quart of oil was NORMAL. So GM installed an ugly cartridge oil filter on top of the engine. Yes it was a pain, but in those days cartridge oil filters were the norm on most cars and trucks.

I've watched my Mazda Tech change my '94 oil/filter now 6 times at the dealer. He has never had a problem with the O-rings, bolts or cover. Of course he is a trained Mazda tech, not a flunky.
 
RonH said:
bbrich57 said:
Speaking of old Chevrolet small blocks, the early '55 265 ci Chevy V8's didn't even come with an oil filter. The dealer's had to tell the customers who had bought one that 300 miles a quart of oil was NORMAL. So GM installed an ugly cartridge oil filter on top of the engine. Yes it was a pain, but in those days cartridge oil filters were the norm on most cars and trucks.

I've watched my Mazda Tech change my '94 oil/filter now 6 times at the dealer. He has never had a problem with the O-rings, bolts or cover. Of course he is a trained Mazda tech, not a flunky.

I remember those filters, and you're right! They spewed oil all over the place when you unbolted them, and they were UGLY! As I recall, the sixes (235 ci's) had them on the side.
My '57 had the filter underneath by the starter motor, if memory serves, and the dirty oil usually just got on my hands... my tools... my eyes... my clothes... my parents driveway.... It's a good thing that I was a basically well loved child. (eyeballs)
As for your "flunky," the way you had described it I was under the impression you were trusting your ride to the local "oil change in 10 minutes" shop." Even so, I have worked for dealerships and independents alike and for years it made me want to do ALL my own work (too old and lazy now.)
I wouldn't trust that these guys are necessarily factory trained... or even have enough intelligence to do more than tie their shoes in the morning. I have worked with factory trained mechanics... sorry, "technicians" and like anything else, some are good at it, but few, while others are just marking time. My advice, be careful with whom you trust your car with.
Ya' nea'vr no, ya' know?
Happy Motoring!! (naughty)
B.B.
 
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Same thing with the old flathead Fords.
 
Hey Guys,
I have bad news for you. The screw on filter allows less oil volume and DOES VOID THE FACTORY WARANTY. It will fit and screw right on. The bolts for the housing will line up but there is a difference. Call your local dealer for more info. If they are not aware ask them to call MAZDA. Mazda will not pay for any engine damage to vehicles with this modification. The damage is not immediate but engine failure is more rapid than with 2.3 engines without the screw on filter.
 
(blah)

You have any proof?

As stated before, the Mazda6i and Mazda3i both use this filter. If there was any reason not to, then it wouldn't be used.

Nice first post. (braindead
 
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ybicjim said:
Hey Guys,
I have bad news for you. The screw on filter allows less oil volume and DOES VOID THE FACTORY WARANTY. It will fit and screw right on. The bolts for the housing will line up but there is a difference. Call your local dealer for more info. If they are not aware ask them to call MAZDA. Mazda will not pay for any engine damage to vehicles with this modification. The damage is not immediate but engine failure is more rapid than with 2.3 engines without the screw on filter.

Damn! I guess all those hundreds of thousands of Ford Focuses with the 2.3 and spin on filter will start self destructing any day now, along with all the 4 cylinder Mazda Tributes and Ford Escapes.

(hand)
 
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