Spool MAZDSPEED Fuel computer

SOSPEED · Nov 6, 2003

SOSPEED said:
#1 But i wonder what will be the power out put with the piggy back install between a flashed car at itsmax boost and a unflashed car at max boost.
#2 Also for peolpe who have the flash how much power would they see out ofthis piggy back since its really for the unflashed ecus
#3 You say the piggy back is programed to compensate for add on like a FMIC, CAI, Cat Back and so on, Well with those add ons and the power gained from the piggy back and the car set to max psi wouldnt the engine go BOOM.. After all of those mods the engine should be putting out over 220, at my guess or more, and i hear that thats the most you would want to be pushing to be safe.

BUMP!!!

spoolinmp3 · Nov 6, 2003

Spools the man! Period. Spool, so we're gonna have to splice it in??? Sure would be sweet if it were plug and play. ... But I guess beggers can't be choosers... =)

It will splice in with 11 wires

what if we have a e-manage unit already? can we get the other things needed to get it to work properly?

Yes you will need to send us your unit so we can callibrate it and solder some diodes and upload the MAPS. If you are interested PM me and I can give you pricing

yeah same dex. terry, lemme know if you need a test car for anything. I live in richmond so I'm really close to you guys. Car is 100% stock right now. If you need it for tuning or testing, lemme know!

Thanks for the offer......u have PM

I will ask AGAIN...

The software is not available to NON-Greddy authorized tuners. You can find some stuff on the net. Or you can buy the EO-1 boost controoler and tune the emanage with that

J&S safeguard would cover timing and give you an extra margin of safety in case you get some "bad gas" at the pumps. It will certainly protect your motor and allow you to take timing out.

We actually will be playing with a few settings to try to manipulate timing on the cars

#1 But i wonder what will be the power out put with the piggy back install between a flashed car at itsmax boost and a unflashed car at max boost.

It will be slight....however you will not be run as high boost with a flashed car

spoolinmp3 · Nov 6, 2003

#2 Also for peolpe who have the flash how much power would they see out ofthis piggy back since its really for the unflashed ecus

It will be for both ecu's
Just again you cannot run as high boost with the flashed ecu. 10 psi will be your limit with the piggy back

#3 You say the piggy back is programed to compensate for add on like a FMIC, CAI, Cat Back and so on, Well with those add ons and the power gained from the piggy back and the car set to max psi wouldnt the engine go BOOM.. After all of those mods the engine should be putting out over 220, at my guess or more, and i hear that thats the most you would want to be pushing to be safe.

The piggyback will be tuned for these mods. Unlike a stock ecu with these mods we will be running safer since the air fuel ratios will be safer than a stock ecu. Also the limit of the FS motor is not 220whp. I have been running 230whp plus for well over a year now on my car
Also a FMIC, CAI and exhaust are all saftey mods if you want to look at it that way. The FMIC further cools down the charged air and keeps it that way, The exhaust releases capped up back pressure. We are not adding stressers to the motor like nitrous.
The limit on these cars will be in the realm of 240-260whp on stock internals.
And with a fine tuned ecu you are raising the threshold for boost and power since you are accuratley controlling things instead of just dumping fuel or advancing timing as mazda chose to do with the reflash

jersey_emt · Nov 6, 2003

This all sounds like some great news!! I think this will be my next mod (instead of exhaust). It will give me a properly tuned fuel map, and not make any more noise than what it does now, so it will be 'sleeper' power!

David MPS · Nov 6, 2003

spoolinmp3 said:
It will be for both ecu's
Just again you cannot run as high boost with the flashed ecu. 10 psi will be your limit with the piggy back The piggyback will be tuned for these mods.

s*** !

I know, I think it's safe to run 10 psi with the Stock ECU.

You says, it's 10psi the limit for the flashed car, so, what is the avantage to use your piggyback if you says I can't boost more than 10psi ?

And, can I use your piggyback and "play" with my boost , like a Profec-B , Lo and Hi setting ? Or it's for XX psi and don't drop or boost up with the mapping you have uploaded in the piggyback ?

turboge · Nov 6, 2003

spoolinmp3 said:
Yes you will need to send us your unit so we can callibrate it and solder some diodes and upload the MAPS. If you are interested PM me and I can give you pricing

I have firmware 1.33 and 1.36 available, what exactly would one need to solder where in order for it to work on an MSP? I was told that the install is fairly straightforward and required no additional resistors or diodes?

If I wanted to install those myself, would you be able to provide the schematic for it? Is it really necessary?

turboge · Nov 7, 2003

Well after talking to GReddy and a number of reputable e-manage installers I have found that all of the new e-manage systems come with a seperate bag filled with a proj box and a 1000 ohm resistor that you tie into the MAF line and the ECU to dampen the MAF signal and allow the e-manage to function correctly.

I'll start another thread on my progress with the e-manage system shortly. All map files will be available and any research will be thoroughly shared as with all my other projects with the MSP.

Larone · Nov 7, 2003

turboge said:
Well after talking to GReddy and a number of reputable e-manage installers I have found that all of the new e-manage systems come with a seperate bag filled with a proj box and a 1000 ohm resistor that you tie into the MAF line and the ECU to dampen the MAF signal and allow the e-manage to function correctly.

I'll start another thread on my progress with the e-manage system shortly. All map files will be available and any research will be thoroughly shared as with all my other projects with the MSP.

You're a true tuner.

BinaryRotary · Nov 7, 2003

Looks like Spool and Turboge are the real tuners on this board.

jersey_emt · Nov 7, 2003

Yeah, I've PMed turboge a couple of times, and he's given me nothing but great information. I'm not doubting Spool's knowledge either...I respect all of the real tuners on this board (we all know who they are).

I'm new to modifying cars, and a lot of the stuff I've learned has been from turboge/spool/ion/perfworks/mpnick/etc...I'm forever grateful.

Larone · Nov 8, 2003

True!

jersey_emt said:
Yeah, I've PMed turboge a couple of times, and he's given me nothing but great information. I'm not doubting Spool's knowledge either...I respect all of the real tuners on this board (we all know who they are).

I'm new to modifying cars, and a lot of the stuff I've learned has been from turboge/spool/ion/perfworks/mpnick/etc...I'm forever grateful.

I agree with you 100%...these guys really know what they're doing.

jus10 msp · Nov 8, 2003

hey guys and girls. i can't wait until next weekend so terry and i can do the spool mazdaseed fuel computer. i will let everyone know how its doing.

thanks

justin h.

spoolinmp3 · Nov 8, 2003

We are looking foward to this computer and we have some intiall tricks our sleeve to give ya'll even more value for your money

The final pricing on the unit will be $599
This will include maps, support, instructions, all sensors, harness's and the piggy back unit.

I will keep everyone updated

turboge · Nov 8, 2003

Did you figure out how to get the timing control to work yet?

Notorious · Nov 8, 2003

Awesome guys, keep it up!

Larone · Nov 8, 2003

turboge said:
Did you figure out how to get the timing control to work yet?

Are you referring to retarding the timing on flashed cars here? If not, that's my question to Terry.

David MPS · Nov 8, 2003

spoolinmp3 said:
We are looking foward to this computer and we have some intiall tricks our sleeve to give ya'll even more value for your money

The final pricing on the unit will be $599
This will include maps, support, instructions, all sensors, harness's and the piggy back unit.

I will keep everyone updated

nice!!!!!!!!

I'm waiting news for update for MSP with ECU flash........

turboge · Nov 8, 2003

The MSP flash is not a big problem, I just ran 13psi today with only fuel control and it ran fine.

David MPS · Nov 8, 2003

turboge said:
The MSP flash is not a big problem, I just ran 13psi today with only fuel control and it ran fine.

ok, but why Spool said the piggyback are not for the MSP Flashed ?

azian6er · Nov 8, 2003

Turboge......

So with forged internals (stock compression JE pistons, pauter rods) and an FCD, What do you think is a resonable boost level to be able to run if one does have a flash and without other engine management?

Also, with proper fueling, i.e. this piggy back, do you think that 13-15 psi is an acceptable and safe boost level?

Also, I read in another thread that with the micrtech standalone an alternator needs to be replaced... is this true?

Also, what standalone would you recommend, haltech e6k, e6x, microtech, or just a piggy back like spools?

What is the best price for one of these units for what it can do?

Also, If a haltech unit is purchased, would an external 3 bar map sensor be needed, or can the stock sensor deal with the increased boost level?

Thanks,
-B

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