Speeding, is it safe?

[asianhottie]

I am starting this forum because some of you think I am psycho but I have valid reasons for saying a few things.

Speeding, the act of going over the speed limit.

We will not use any names.

I am very opposed to people who speed (over 110 mph) with young children in the car. Children have no control over how fast the driver is going, especially if they are killer.

Street racing, that is a no-no. Other people are on the street too. What is some idiot you past by changes lane, he does not see you, and he is driving a minivan full of kids around? What then? He was the idiot but now kids are killed. Not cool.

 

[CharlieP5]

I Agree With Ya!

Racing should be done in Controlled Closed Courses not the streets.

Most of the time when accidents happen the victims are the people who mind their own business.

 

[BondoBob]

Would it be okay if the car was only going *say* 108MPH?

Since this is a vaild (and fairly sane, if thinly vailed) thread...I'll play along Ms. Hottie.

I don't believe in having anyone other than consenting adults in my car when I might do over the posted speed limit. I don't believe in street racing. I've lost a couple of friends over the years who were either street racing or driving way too fast. I find that most crashes however, come from people who don't pay attention to what they are doing while piloting a motor vehicle down the road. The person talking endlessly on the cell phone, fighting with the children in the back seat, trying to eat a messy sandwich or God help us all, putting on makeup is a bigger threat to the soccer mom with five little brats in the Ford Windstar than someone driving a few MPH over the limit.

I openly admit that I wear my shoulder/lapbelt at all times and make sure that others riding with me do as well. I have worn seatbelts in cars since I was old enough to wear them (about 1964, I seem to remember).

Since you asked: the real problem on the road is that there is no true test of driving skill required to own a car/truck/RV than knowing what color a stop sign is and parallel parking.

People "speed" (meaning going over the posted limit) everyday. I have driven in Texas and I could not have done 55MPH down the highway(I-35?) from DFW to Austin. I set the cruise for about 80MPH and got right in line with the traffic flow. I find if you travel at the speed of traffic, you are better off than trying to show everyone that you are right and they are wrong by acting as a moving speedbump or trying to bob and weave past slower cars.

Death kills.

 

[manuel]

uhm yeah lets not use names here but we all know who she refers to, but anyways, yeah driving fast should be done in a controlled closed course like charlie said. trust me if you go to autocross events, youll get out all the speeding youll ever want.

 

[LinuxRacr]

Sapril,

Didn't you just race me on Cooper in your Explorer Yesterday? I won if I can remember.

 

[sundevilMP5]

ok...speeding i can handle as long as it's controlled...i don't think it's unreasonable to go 80mph...but over 100 seems a little or should i say very excessive especially if there's others around...

under no circumstances do i ever condone street racing...i know some people who have gotten into serious accidents...thankfully nobody lost their life...but i can point out numerous other cases in which people did...unfortunately az is filled with tons of stupid kids with rice-mobiles that have a need to get their gun off at every stop light...

if you need to speed take it to the track...or at least somewhere that you'll only hurt yourself....

 

[asianhottie]

As I remember, I started this forum, I did NOT use anyone's name. I think another person has slandered me without me saying anything about them.

This is to BondoBob, he has a valid point. But younger guys have these MP3s so they can race it on the street. Yes, we all speed, but not excessivesly, say 40 mph over the speed limit. I admit I do it but never over 15 mph.

Most accidents involving street racing that kill involve people who are minding their own business.

As for my little speeding adventure on Cooper street, that was wrong. I was just trying to prove that my 6 cylinder 205 horsepower SUV could whoop an MP3 from a stoplight but after 500 feet, the MP3 would catch up. All I was trying to tell somebody was that I have more starting power.

 

[LinuxRacr]

I know that! All your power is down low! Starting torque is all you got! At higher speeds the advantages of lighter weight, and the CAI kicks in!! Mwuhuhuhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[BigBlue]

But younger guys have these MP3s so they can race it on the street. Yes, we all speed, but not excessivesly, say 40 mph over the speed limit. I admit I do it but never over 15 mph.

Well I bought my MP3 not so I can speed but because I liked the total package...handling, looks, sound, visual the works...hell any vehicle given enough time can go over the limit speedwise. I'll concede tho that if I do speed, it's normally on a highway where going over the limit isn't as inherently dangerous as there are usually far fewer cars than say in the middle of downtown. I will say that I agree that one who is speeding should only do so with other consenting adults, but then again if you are speeding, no matter what you are increasing your chances of an accident.

I'm not into street racing and I think it's a LOT more dangerous than normal speeding. For one you are doing it right next to another car and if for whatever reason something goes wrong you now have two vehicles potentially involved. As well, the people aren't concentrating on their surroundings as much as on the actual race which could also lead to accidents. I'm not going to say I have a halo here...I've done dumb things in the past too.

 

[cjstringer]

The biggest problem we have has nothing really to to with the speeding itself, it's with everyones opinion that driving is a RIGHT, not a PRIVELAGE. It is a PRIVELAGE, and we need to take it away from more people, and not grant to most of those that we do.
Here in Indiana, there was a DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) driving test instructor. It's his job to go out and take the road test with new people getting their licenses. He had the nerve(who does he think he is?) to fail over 40 people in one month. All of them were 16 years old. Well, the "rich" parents of the kids think their children have the RIGHT to be driving, so they petition the state and get him fired. On their next test, they all pass. Hmm, something sounds fishy to me.
It's the fact that we give any dumbass with the money keys to a 2500+ pound killing machine and think it's something we deserve to be able to do. It's bulls***. How often do we actually NEED to be driving? Not much. Where I live, I'm 9 miles each way from work. I also have a grocery store, movie theatre, and pretty much anything else I could need between work and home. I can, in one trip home from work, get everything I need, and still drive my car less than 20 miles in a day. I've gone 2 weeks without putting 150 miles on my car before.
These "kids" need to be taught that driving should be something they do on the roads, and if they want to race, which I know I do, they do it on a track, in a closed course.
Here's a thought. If street racing is such a huge problem in certain areas, why don't more people step up to sanction ORGANIZED racing events in those areas? You can't tell me that Texas doesn't have any large, flat parking lots or areas to do drags. I've been there. There's plenty. Get the children into organized events, and blame the parents. It's their job to have them under control. That's what being a parent is about. Taking responsibility for the menace to society that you have created.

Ok, just my venting thoughts.

 

[asianhottie]

Yeah, yeah yeah, all my power is down low but my vehicle wasn;t built to go high speeds.

You can't blame parents for actions of people in their 20s or 30s, there are some like that who drive uncontrollable. I think this is why these irresponsible maniacs give other car fans a bad rep

Closed courses get a thumbs up!

 

[cjstringer]

As for those in their 20's and 30's, well, eventually natural selection will rid us of some of them. Hopefully it won't cost any other lives or too many telephone poles, but it does keep the electricians employed!

 

[manuel]

no adult wants to sanction RACING events, especially when they are paying for it. noone wants to pay for stuff, especially if they are paying for something they dont even do. btw, there are a few different car events every month here in texas, some months have more than others but they happen. its not always HUGE event such as WIC or dragwars but are low level, small club sponsored. there are like 2 different autocross events going on here in houston this month. one is a "regional" event but was mainly made for the corvette club(which i spanked a few of including a camaro ss ) and then there is another sometime in the mid of may, the "BMW/Porsche vs Corvette/Viper Challenge". a small club "underground graphics/fiveone productions" is sponsoring a car show and a small track i beleive, somewhere in louisiana or something, but dont quote me on that. so see these events are happening, just that these "street racers" dont give one cent about them because they get more of a rush from the street racing and they look cooler. also, parents dont have to be running around after their kids when they are over 18. they are adults for alot of things, they can have sex,smoke, and drive just to name a few. its like blaming Miller Lite, Budweiser for drunk driving, its not their fault folks seem to want to drive after drinking. now if their kids are 16, have driving permits, and are friggin' driving around past 11PM, then yes, make the parents get strict as heck.

 

[Gro Harlem]

Yeah, yeah yeah, all my power is down low but my vehicle wasn;t built to go high speeds.

Uhh riiiiight the MP3 was made to go under 80 mph right? and your explorer was designed to travel at lightspeed? Uhh if you knew a damn thing about the MP3 or explorer, you'd know the MP3 would be a helluva lot more safe at 140mph than the exploer.

Just read the latest road and track

 

[manuel]

hmm i think she meant she cant go as fast as the mp3, think you misunderstood, or am i talking outta my ass again?

 

[javy212]

But younger guys have these MP3s so they can race it on the street.

Ok Miss Hottie, I'm really starting to get upset with these gross generalizations you continute to make about "younger people". I'm 20 years old. Do I speed? Damn right I do. 80mph on the NJ turnpike is definitely speeding, and yet I'm usually the one getting passed on the highway by older guys in bimmers and Benz's.
You know what though, I'm also an EMT, and I would say 90% of the remotely-serious or worse car accidents I've seen in my EMT career (almost 2 years now) have been either a) 'Soccer Moms' trying to get somewhere in time to get their kid or dealing with a kid in the car or b) People too busy on their cell phones to pay attention to the road. I can count on 1 hand how many accidents I've seen that were caused by someone under the age of 25.

I personally will do some quick racing from time to time in my car in the street, but who here can honestly say they haven't done a 'Light to Light' race in their lifetime (you've already admitted to having done it yourself very recently). I have, but I'm not stupid about it. I'm not flying around in traffic during rush hour.

I'm not trying to start another flamewar or anything of the sort, it's just very aggravating to be younger than a lot of the people around me and have that play a factor in the way people perceive me and my actions without actually bearing witness or having basis for it.

PS As for my signature, I've been in three accidents with my MP3... One I was hit by a 45 year old guy in a Jag, once I was hit by a woman in her 50's in a station wagon, and once I was hit by a guy in his 30's who was Colonel in the Army....

 

[Sir Nuke]

PS As for my signature, I've been in three accidents with my MP3... One I was hit by a 45 year old guy in a Jag, once I was hit by a woman in her 50's in a station wagon, and once I was hit by a guy in his 30's who was Colonel in the Army....

DAMN DUDE!! have you ever just considered dipping the car in a rubber coating?

:{D

 

[javy212]

Nuke, I was actually contemplating reinforcing the body panels with Titanium! hehe... or maybe just replacing the body panels with Titanium! even better.... Between the 3 accidents, i've had all the panels on the rear of the car replaced from the read doors back.... including a new bumper.... floor in the trunk.... both rear tail lights.... trunk lid..... and the most amazing thing? Not one of the accidents caused a bit of mecahnical damage (other than fubar-ing my muffler, but that's not really mechanical..... so i'ts been bad, but it could have been 10 times worse.... still feel sjust like she did the day I got it (only a little faster.... Injen!! hehe)

 

[asianhottie]

Don't read too much into it: my SUV is not meant to go any high speed at all, especially around turns. p3s and p5s go much faster.

For those younger guys that are offended by my generalization, I am sorry. But in my city, full of teenagers in rice burners, and guys in their 20's, they are so wreckless! That is why in Texas, the insurance rate for guys under 25 are sky high you mind as well be making another car payment!

 

[manuel]

.............That is why in Texas, the insurance rate for guys under 25 are sky high you mind as well be making another car payment!

i can vouche for that.
also, ive never raced, been in an autocross but never "street raced".