So who would've or would like a BMW 1-series instead?

[mikeyb]

Great the bringing of the MS3 vs 135i pissing contest threads.

 

[sfalexi]

See, I'm not sure I want to go for a racing type car. And I'm not looking for a car that will beat other cars from the line, from a roll, top end, etc. I basically like a car with pep. There is a SLIGHT chance in the future that I might try to start a hobby in amateur racing. But barring that 1% chance, I'm wondering about whether I'll put 10k into touching up various parts of my car (audio system, performance, any other 'luxury' touches I can get in there like bluetooth compatability), or trading in my car, adding 10k, and using that as a down payment towards an already luxurious car but knowing it won't be AS powerful as I could make the MS3.

But thanks for the responses. Interesting how I got two VERY drastic different responses almost back to back.

if i have 20k sitting around...i would trade my ms3 in for a 135i in a heartbeat...

and

That being said...

If I had $35k and access to a program that would let me buy a 135i AT $35k (trying to find and under optioned BMW at invoice or less is damned near impossible)...

I wouldn't buy the 135i.

Alexi
Alexi

 

[Unoriginaluser]

i'd take the 135i if i could

 

[ZOOMit]

I've seen some pretty cool write ups of it in eurotuner magazine, honestly I love European cars but I'm not really diggin this Bimmer. Don't get me wrong, its hot, regardless of the HP/TQ figures. It's just looks so damn tiny. I like the versatility of a my hatch.

 

[Chris Barnett]

I looked at a 135i but after pricing one with a few options on BMW's website I wasn't willing to spend 41k for a car without a limited slip and 300+ horsepower.

Maybe with the M or tii version comes out, but not without the limited slip.

 

[///M Compact]

I looked at a 135i but after pricing one with a few options on BMW's website I wasn't willing to spend 41k for a car without a limited slip and 300+ horsepower.

Maybe with the M or tii version comes out, but not without the limited slip.

I'd also like to see Munich try to pare down the weight a bit more. Right now a 135i isn't all that much lighter than a 335i.

 

[Chris Barnett]

True, but that wasn't a deal killer for me. 200lbs isn't a big difference, but as with any BMW they load it up on things. I'm hoping the M or tii version brings weight down another 150-250 lbs in addition to some extra power.

 

[palerider]

Great the bringing of the MS3 vs 135i pissing contest threads.

Im not pissing...lol Id love that car. Its just that Im not going to be jealous of its power any more than I am of a modded rwd mustang.

If you buy it...its because you want a nicer car than the ms3 and youve got the money to do it. Modded these cars will be unbelieveable....

My neighbor ordered a chipped 335.... were already excited to drive the thing. I would hardly say it will be a pissing contest. The pissing contest is between my car and his macked out civic.

All Im saying is that a stock 135 will not be a race for a turboed tuner car. Thats all. And I know that this has all been said before....lol

 

[Nliiitend1]

I just bought my MS3 at the end of December, but if I hadn't needed to replace my totalled Focus I was planning to wait about a year and buy a 135i.

Unfortunately the 135i had not come out yet, and I still needed a bit of time to save up the kind of downpayment that I'd want to put down it.

That being said, I'm very pleased with my MS3 so far and plan to at least hold on to it until the warranty is out. At that time I'll just have to see what else is out there.

 

[angryflipkicker]

I think 135i's are great, but priced out exactly how I want (and to compete with a buddy's 335i) it came out to being well over $40K. No thanks...not because it's not a great car or performance value, but it just doesn't fit where I am in life.

Frankly, this is just my opinion, but I can't bring myself to spend so much on car when I'm a young guy trying to save some cash for a house, engagement ring, bills, etc. I love my Speed because it's so practical yet fast for its price point. I can keep my car for years and stick a baby in the back if needed.

If I had extra cash I would probably get another mid 90's tuner car and make it exactly how I want. That said, those 135i's are great cars.

 

[gr3y]

+1 - However this new 135i is gonna be hard to "embrass" even stock. I read somewhere that it's gonna run 0 to 60 in 5sec flat. The 1/4? I'm guessing a low 13 easy. Think about it, it's got the same motor as the 335i and it's a lot lighter. No doubt this is a fast machine. But you pay for what you get.

I think he meant if we put 10k more into our cars - so that, in essence, it would cost as much as the 135i - it would embarass it. And indeed it would.

 

[robin2660]

Yeah. I understand lots of people here were looking for a 25k car (as was I) but since I'll be going again I was thinking of upping the ante with the extra money I get over there.

I was just wondering what others thought. I understand that with 10k into my current car (MS3) I'd be past the performance of an off the lot 1-series. I was looking more at the comfort+performance package. I'm wondering if I'm ever really going to use the MS3's capabilities (I don't street race, don't go to the drag strip, and have never raced in any way before). And I will be losing a year on the warranty.

I was thinking of maybe just going for more comfort and luxury. My wife wants a kid soon and that's also a factor. The MS3 has the family capability, but without a warranty I'm wondering what the chances are that I'd have to pay for repairs. And that's why the Hyundai is looking so good (10 year 100,000 mile warranty and supposedly going to be very comfortable).

But I do have to take into accound maintanence/repairs. My bumper to bumper is up shortly after I return from the second tour. I originially thought I was going to stay in the states for a while so I got a new car. Situation changed though.

But thanks to all above who pointed out different things. I didn't take into account repair costs either. I'm sure a BMW would be nice, but after THAT warranty is up, it'd cost a lot. But I also have to take into account the gas mileage of what the hyundai might be and the fact that it's a brand new car (could mean problems) with a brand new engine (TAU V8) which might have some serious snags if not designed perfectly the first time......

Sigh. So many choices. But thank you very much for the discussions and bringing up things to thing about.

Alexi

Couldn't you afford an extended warranty then on the MS3? That and you could bank some extra $$ for the future (read, baby).

 

[MS3077]

I think he meant if we put 10k more into our cars - so that, in essence, it would cost as much as the 135i - it would embarass it. And indeed it would.

In that case I would agree our cars would murder it.

 

[n|njutsu55]

One of my best friends just bought a new 335i for 40k (OTD) after I suggested it to him 4 days prior. Why spend that amount on a 135i. If your willing to spend 35k plus on a vehicle you might as well get the 335i and have 4 doors. The i35i seems to me to be as spacious as a civic coupe. I'm amazed at how much stuff I can cram into my speed. I've hauled over 20,000 dollars worth on audio equipment in the past. If your worried about warranty issues get an extended warranty for your speed and call it a day.

On the other hand ......after driving the 335i (alot). I very much want one but my payments would almost double just to lease it.

 

[MS3077]

One of my best friends just bought a new 335i for 40k (OTD) after I suggested it to him 4 days prior. Why spend that amount on a 135i. If your willing to spend 35k plus on a vehicle you might as well get the 335i and have 4 doors. The i35i seems to me to be as spacious as a civic coupe. I'm amazed at how much stuff I can cram into my speed. I've hauled over 20,000 dollars worth on audio equipment in the past. If your worried about warranty issues get an extended warranty for your speed and call it a day.

On the other hand ......after driving the 335i (alot). I very much want one but my payments would almost double just to lease it.

Is the 335i a lot funner to drive than the speed 3?

 

[rc50cal]

My roommate owns a 335i. I would not say that it is more fun though although it may even be a touch faster. It is however definitely more luxurious.

 

[redspeed]

When I get the turbo on it in a couple weeks I would EMBARASS it from a roll....

What turbo you decided to get? GT2871R or GT3071R?

 

[n|njutsu55]

Is the 335i a lot funner to drive than the speed 3?

The 335i isn't really more fun to drive in my opinion....its just nicer on the inside and has a few more creature comforts. Its only the slightest bit faster (very slight).

 

[Rotary_Powered]

MS MS3 FTW. comes in at around 30k. The 1series is nice but I'd rather a 3series at that price.

 

[mikeyb]

Im not pissing...lol Id love that car. Its just that Im not going to be jealous of its power any more than I am of a modded rwd mustang.

If you buy it...its because you want a nicer car than the ms3 and youve got the money to do it. Modded these cars will be unbelieveable....

My neighbor ordered a chipped 335.... were already excited to drive the thing. I would hardly say it will be a pissing contest. The pissing contest is between my car and his macked out civic.

All Im saying is that a stock 135 will not be a race for a turboed tuner car. Thats all. And I know that this has all been said before....lol

Its all good. But the mods are watching this thread because it could turn into a pissing contest. It seems everytime a new sport compact or a sporting car comes out there are thread after thread that are pissing contest.