So the MS3 is really governed regarding top speed!!

Gear ratio wise the MS3 might be able to do that, but if you take air resistance and aerodynamics into consideration, could the MS3 reach that speed with its horsepower/torque?
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I see your point about the power but the car runs through 6th gear so well I couldn't imagine that making a differance. Yeah well we all have CAI's and Turbo backs. My Civic was pushing 8 PSI to redline in 5th so thats how I managed that feat.
 
My Civic was pushing 8 PSI to redline in 5th so thats how I managed that feat.

(lol2) You left that tiny bit of important information out... (lol2)

I was surprised at how smooth and easy it was at the so indicated 150MPH... It was like driving a Cady (the old ones) at 55MPH...

It only took like 2 miles (starting at 70-75MPH) on a brisk cold morning; start to finish.
 
The problem is one of basic physics. For a fixed coefficient of drag, frontal area and air density, the power required increases as the cube of the change in velocity.

For example, ASSUMING 263 hp at the flywheel will push the MS3 to 155 mph, and ASSUMING other efficiencies remain unchanged, then the following would be true:

MPH/HP required (from 263hp)
160/289 (+13)
170/347 (+84)
180/412 (+149)
190/485 (+222)
200/565 (+302)

It takes prodigious amounts of horsepower to go fast! I call BS on a lot of speed claims with this information.
-enganear
 
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The car is limited to 155 not topped out at 155. The formula you used is not right but I understand the idea. You also have to take into consideration that the redline, gearing, final drive, and wheel + tire size are what really dictate top speed. HP is just needed to push the car throught the air.
 
Personally I have seen 157 on many an occassion. As far as being limited goes, this is basically red line anyway.
 
"The car is limited to 155 not topped out at 155. The formula you used is not right but I understand the idea. You also have to take into consideration that the redline, gearing, final drive, and wheel + tire size are what really dictate top speed. HP is just needed to push the car throught the air."

What part of "ASSUMING" did you not understand? Most of the reviews have stated the MS3 was pretty maxed out at 155, speed limited or not. My formula is correct given the listed assumptions and exclusions and was meant to show how rapidly the horsepower required climbs for a small increase in speed. It is not a linear relationship, it is exponential. Yeah, if you switch cars then a comparison is moot.
-enganear
 
When I have hit over 145, my car hood starts to shake. Otherwise, it doesn't take long at all to get there and it's a smooth cruise. From Tampa to Orlando...gotta love the rediculous straightaways.

I once hit 152 and then the next day, I "maxed" out or whatever at 145 like somebody previously mentioned. Maybe it was all that mexican food I ate. (glare)
 
"The car is limited to 155 not topped out at 155. The formula you used is not right but I understand the idea. You also have to take into consideration that the redline, gearing, final drive, and wheel + tire size are what really dictate top speed. HP is just needed to push the car throught the air."

What part of "ASSUMING" did you not understand? Most of the reviews have stated the MS3 was pretty maxed out at 155, speed limited or not. My formula is correct given the listed assumptions and exclusions and was meant to show how rapidly the horsepower required climbs for a small increase in speed. It is not a linear relationship, it is exponential. Yeah, if you switch cars then a comparison is moot.
-enganear

thats not true! check out youtube theres guys hitting 162mph, 263kmh, even superstreet magazine has a video out of them hitting 263kmh wich is 162mph on the autobon with a passenger
 
What part of "ASSUMING" did you not understand? Most of the reviews have stated the MS3 was pretty maxed out at 155, speed limited or not. My formula is correct given the listed assumptions and exclusions and was meant to show how rapidly the horsepower required climbs for a small increase in speed. It is not a linear relationship, it is exponential. Yeah, if you switch cars then a comparison is moot.
-enganear

I agree with the exponential part but you started to calculate your values at the wrong point. I was just trying to say that being electronically limited not mechanically limited will change the relationship of your theory.
 
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