Should I get an MSP?

I called the dealership and talked to a sales guy named Todd Crabtree he admitted it was a lemon, but he sated that Mazda toild them it was becuase of customer dissastifaction. I then asked him to explain what all of the service entry were on the CarFax report. He said to call back tomorrow and talk to Joe Lee I believe a manager of some sorts.

i'm puzzled if this was a simple buyback then why was it reported as a Lemon? Normally buybacks just show as a used vehicle and not a lemon. Somebody had to report it has a lemon and that normally means they had recurring problems to the point the delaership agreed to buy it back. From what I can tell dealers will fight tooth and nail to avoid a lemon buyback and it's rare they consumer wins unless they can really prove the car to be a lemon.

I would ask for as much documentation on this car and have them agree to put everything in writing about any statement they make about this car.
 
if u want to buy an MSP for cheap there is an orange one in houston for 11k buy it now on ebay. It was in a flood and has reconditioned title. It was sold about a month ago for 9k on ebay.
 
Artur1976 said:
if u want to buy an MSP for cheap there is an orange one in houston for 11k buy it now on ebay. It was in a flood and has reconditioned title. It was sold about a month ago for 9k on ebay.

That is what is scary about buying cars in the Houston area a lot of recon title vehicles. I would never buy a car that has been in a flood! I have worked for an auto finance company for over 13 yr's and flood cars seem to have so many problems even after it seems they have replaced everything in the units....
 
Artur1976 said:
if u want to buy an MSP for cheap there is an orange one in houston for 11k buy it now on ebay. It was in a flood and has reconditioned title. It was sold about a month ago for 9k on ebay.

not sure this is the right one for me! :) at this point things aren't looking good. my wife and i might just put up with our SUV for a while and get something new in a year or two. blah! i wish my corolla were paid off and i could trade it in for a msp. oh well....

yeah, according to carfax it has a salvage title.

11/17/2004 15,816 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dallas, TX
Title #29722038306144258
New owner reported
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
11/17/2004 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dallas, TX
Title #29722038306144258
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
11/30/2004 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
11/30/2004 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
01/21/2005 15,844 Texas
Inspection Station
Houston, TX
Passed emissions inspection
Not Reported Salvage Auction
Houston, TX
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
Sold at salvage auction
Collision damage reported
 
apocman said:
I called the dealership and talked to a sales guy named Todd Crabtree he admitted it was a lemon, but he sated that Mazda toild them it was becuase of customer dissastifaction. I then asked him to explain what all of the service entry were on the CarFax report. He said to call back tomorrow and talk to Joe Lee I believe a manager of some sorts.

i'm puzzled if this was a simple buyback then why was it reported as a Lemon? Normally buybacks just show as a used vehicle and not a lemon. Somebody had to report it has a lemon and that normally means they had recurring problems to the point the delaership agreed to buy it back. From what I can tell dealers will fight tooth and nail to avoid a lemon buyback and it's rare they consumer wins unless they can really prove the car to be a lemon.

I would ask for as much documentation on this car and have them agree to put everything in writing about any statement they make about this car.

man that's cool of you. thanks for the help. i think they are just waiting for a naive, gullible customer to come in without asking for the history report, etc. salesmen....ughhh... well, let me know what they say. i have a feeling they're going to claim to have "fixed the car" in some vague way and "now it is in perfect condition". :) just my 2 cents.
 

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