Saying Hi and asking for opinion.

[Streetz]

Thought I should first say sup guys. Nice forum board you guys have. Now on to my questions...

For a long time I've been looking into getting a sports car, for a long time I've been wanting an AWD DSM. I ran across the MS6 while doing research. I love the car it looks nice. Here's my dilemma, first I'm 20, have a good job and a 10 month old daughter. As much as I want a DSM, I need something a little more reliable and 4 doors with room. MS6 takes the cake on that obviously. I want a quick car and make it quicker. Not a 10 second car, just something with some zoom to it you know? I roll with a group that has supras, Evos, STis etc. Ballers with nice cars and I want something that I won't discrace(sp?) them when I go on cruises. I'm going to get a nice discount because my uncle worked for Mazda for many years, retired and apparently gets a good discount still.

For the real questions, 1, what in your opinions, is the aftermarket performance support going to be like for the MS6? Again, I don't want a 10 sec car, maybe low to mid 12s. Obviously the BPUs and maybe even a small upgrade of the turbo (if needed, not sure what the stock can handle). I realize it will be awhile, but wondering in the future, don't need so many options like the DSM. I don't care about body kits and crap like that, I love the body the way it is.

And last, is the MS6 the right choice for me? Again, want a sporty car that I can add a bit more zoom too and keep it reliable at the same time. Enough space for my daughter and her baby stuff. That's about it, sorry for the long post. Thanks everyone for your input!

 

[jflo]

i don't foresee the MS6's aftermarket growing very big because mazda has not made a well-established name for itself, yet. however, as with anything, anything can happen. some people will want more out of the car, and as such they'll figure ways to upgrade their car. i think the MS6 would be a great car considering your lifestyle right now. it has the amenities to transport things like babies and groceries, but it also has the right amount of fun and sportiness.

 

[Mgkdrgn]

"Aftermarket" for the MS6 will be pretty close to zippo, as they are only going to make 5000 to be sold in the states. Not a big enough market for anybody to bother with.

That said, there -really- isn't the need for much aftermarket on the MS6. It's pretty much got it all right out of the box ... including a real back seat and 4 doors.

And trust me, it's got LOTS of Zoom.

Thought I should first say sup guys. Nice forum board you guys have. Now on to my questions...

For a long time I've been looking into getting a sports car, for a long time I've been wanting an AWD DSM. I ran across the MS6 while doing research. I love the car it looks nice. Here's my dilemma, first I'm 20, have a good job and a 10 month old daughter. As much as I want a DSM, I need something a little more reliable and 4 doors with room. MS6 takes the cake on that obviously. I want a quick car and make it quicker. Not a 10 second car, just something with some zoom to it you know? I roll with a group that has supras, Evos, STis etc. Ballers with nice cars and I want something that I won't discrace(sp?) them when I go on cruises. I'm going to get a nice discount because my uncle worked for Mazda for many years, retired and apparently gets a good discount still.

For the real questions, 1, what in your opinions, is the aftermarket performance support going to be like for the MS6? Again, I don't want a 10 sec car, maybe low to mid 12s. Obviously the BPUs and maybe even a small upgrade of the turbo (if needed, not sure what the stock can handle). I realize it will be awhile, but wondering in the future, don't need so many options like the DSM. I don't care about body kits and crap like that, I love the body the way it is.

And last, is the MS6 the right choice for me? Again, want a sporty car that I can add a bit more zoom too and keep it reliable at the same time. Enough space for my daughter and her baby stuff. That's about it, sorry for the long post. Thanks everyone for your input!

 

[stillflat4]

That said, there -really- isn't the need for much aftermarket on the MS6. It's pretty much got it all right out of the box ... including a real back seat and 4 doors.

I feel the same way, but perhaps that's because I think I'm the demographic that Mazda was looking for -- someone who would've gone with a Legacy or an A4 or BMW 3 series were it not for this car. That's what most of my friends are driving.

I don't think I'd do a thing to this car.

 

[Rio Racer]

If ya want zoom get a mazda.. I mean zoom zoom is part of their whole ideology. MS6 would be a nice quick ride that is still safe and good for a family. Other choices would be the Altima SE-R and the Subaru Legacy GT.

 

[Antoine]

Even with minimal aftermarket support...The MS6 has SO MUCH potential that most mods will make a big difference! Also...It's not about how MANY aftermarket choices you have...It's how GOOD those choices (parts) are!

The MS6 is unique and that will alwys be cool...

 

[Flykazoo]

Hey, Streetz. I'm in the same situation as yourself. Want a quick car, and still be able to haul my two kids around. MS6 is great for that. Four doors, a nice big trunk, plenty of room in the back seat, and plenty of zoom. My wife hates driving the stick, which actually works out fine for me She can keep her mini van.

Good Luck,

Keith

I'm not sure what the person meant when they said Mazda hadn't made a "well-established" name for themselves. Been around a long time, RX series has done very well. Brand seems to have a loyal following. Just my .02

Keith

 

[M6GR8]

I don't think the Speed6 will be anywhere as close to the STI or the EVO in performance for that matter, as if by the time you mod your car to the extent of performance level to these twos, they would have done the same that exceed and extend the performance to another level yet again.

Having said that, if you are mainly looking for a family type of car with decent space, good looking, and resonable price with performance that exceed majority of the automobiles on the road, then this is the right car for you.

As you have mentioned you don't need cars in the sub 10sec car but perhaps in the mid 12sec's, then with the current stock, some ppl managed into upper 13sec mark, so perhaps if the availability of any modifications in future comes true, the target should be able to achieve.

Currently there are few small companies looking at basic mod like CAI, exhausts and that.But these same companies did mentioned they will further develope downpipe, FMIC and perhaps in the turbo management area as well in future. But I guess all this will still take sometimes to come. One thing I looked at was at the beggining of the year, most ppl are sceptical about any mod if any will be available. But look at with only few months into the 1st year of the car''s release, there are already few components on the market for some basic mods. So perhaps we should be more optimistic about the whole situation.

 

[jflo]

Keith

I'm not sure what the person meant when they said Mazda hadn't made a "well-established" name for themselves. Been around a long time, RX series has done very well. Brand seems to have a loyal following. Just my .02

Keith

what i meant by that was mazda's ability to produce good <b>piston</b> engines, considering that the rotary is what mazda is most known for. you would mostly hear someone saying, oh i'm gonna get a 13B-REW (as opposed to getting the L3-VE from the MS6 or whatever). i mean, yeah, mazda is known in racing, etc, but nowadays most people associate the name mazda with the image of the RX-7/8.

anyway, the MS6 is a nice car, and the engine has been shown to be very stout.

 

[stillflat4]

But look at with only few months into the 1st year of the car''s release, there are already few components on the market for some basic mods. So perhaps we should be more optimistic about the whole situation.

And here's another thought... I know this is a limited run car, but with residuals as low as they are on the MS6 (40-50%), and assuming some lease owners are going to turn in their cars, you might see some good deals in a couple years on these cars... I would imagine that would only improve the demand for aftermarket items to make this into a S4/M5 killer. I think people will keep an eye out for these and hope to pick them up relatively cheap, with low miles, and mod them out.

This is, of course, just a guess, since I don't know much about anything in general. (hah)

 

[Antoine]

And here's another thought... I know this is a limited run car, but with residuals as low as they are on the MS6 (40-50%), and assuming some lease owners are going to turn in their cars, you might see some good deals in a couple years on these cars... I would imagine that would only improve the demand for aftermarket items to make this into a S4/M5 killer. I think people will keep an eye out for these and hope to pick them up relatively cheap, with low miles, and mod them out.

This is, of course, just a guess, since I don't know much about anything in general. (hah)

I totally agree and I think some of you guys are underestimating the MS6 and it's future potential...We're already noticing a similar situation with the Protege...Especially in P5 and MSP form...These cars are experiencing a resurgence in popularity even after having several owners! They are inexpensive, reliable, practical and pack more character and "sport" per square inch than more mainstream "sport" compacts.

Mazda makes genuine cars...sans hype.

 

[Streetz]

Wanted to say thanks for everyone and their great reply. Like it's been said, the MSP has a "pretty good" support for AM parts. I'm not expecting the support to be like an Evo, STi or DSM, just something with good BPU options. FMIC, CAI, turbo or cat-back exhaust, clutch flywheel, some piping, BOVs (understand their's a kit for the HKS SSQV, too bad the SSQV is so damn loud thought), boost controllers would all go a long way with the car.

I've actually even been debating on the MSP now as well after some research. The AM support is good with a lot too choose from, I just like the AWD that the MS6 has. This thread has great reply's and good arguments. Thanks again guys. My decision on what car to get is definatly a hard one!

 

[vcinsanity1523]

Wanted to say thanks for everyone and their great reply. Like it's been said, the MSP has a "pretty good" support for AM parts. I'm not expecting the support to be like an Evo, STi or DSM, just something with good BPU options. FMIC, CAI, turbo or cat-back exhaust, clutch flywheel, some piping, BOVs (understand their's a kit for the HKS SSQV, too bad the SSQV is so damn loud thought), boost controllers would all go a long way with the car.

I've actually even been debating on the MSP now as well after some research. The AM support is good with a lot too choose from, I just like the AWD that the MS6 has. This thread has great reply's and good arguments. Thanks again guys. My decision on what car to get is definatly a hard one!

I like the mazdaspeed 6 myself and the subaru legacy gt's they are very nice cars i have personally driven the speed 6 and its a great overall car with a good amount of power from the factory. My question to you is why not an evo or sti if you want something that is and can easily be really fast a heavy aftermarket following and still practicality. If you want more of a classy ride speed 6/legacy gt is the way to go. Good luck with your decision

 

[Captain KRM P5]

welcome to the forum, streetz. i am from the IL area as well so hit me up sometime.

the whole notion that the car will have zero aftermarket is nonsense. i can name a dozen companies with products in the works right now - front mount intercoolers, turboback exhausts, etc for starters. there are already forged internals for the car. the msp was produced in less numbers and was marketed terribly by mazda and had a fair aftermarket following. the car runs mid to high 13s bone friggin stock, which I don't see as anything to sneeze at. even a piss poor driver can put down a 14 flat quarter mile. for a four door sedan priced under or around 30k for a well equipped model, thats pretty hot stuff.

 

[dLyte00]

Only 2006..

After this year Mazda isn't making anymore MS6's?

 

[Mgkdrgn]

Yep, one run, thats it. Get 'em while you can.

The next MazdaSpeed vehicle is going to be the Mazda3, with a slightly lower HP version of the engine that is currently in the MS6.

After this year Mazda isn't making anymore MS6's?

 

[Killer]

Yep, one run, thats it. Get 'em while you can.

The next MazdaSpeed vehicle is going to be the Mazda3, with a slightly lower HP version of the engine that is currently in the MS6.

and it will be FWD only.

 

[Antoine]

Yep, one run, thats it. Get 'em while you can.

Can you confirm that?

 

[MSPBlazinYellow]

Can you confirm that?

My dealer told me that when they are gone that's it no more. He told me they expect the MS3 to be in around late fall. Obviously this can't be backed up with any official releases from mazda or anything though.

As far as choosing between the MS6 and the EVO or STI, I was debating the same thing when I was looking for a new car, and check out what I drive! You can go back and forth forever but I will try to sum up my findings in short.

If you want to go fast, get and EVO. If you want to go fast and be comfortable doing it, get the MS6. The MS6's interior blows the EVO's out of the water. I test drove a few and I just couldn't get past how cheap the inside looks on those cars. I don't want my $30k+ car's interior looking like it came from a bone stock 03 dodge neon! I mean, come on, my MS6 ( it is a GT) has heated seats, keyless ignition, keyless entry, 6 disk cd changer, sattelite radio, moon roof, 2 tone leather. Does the EVO's have anything like that? I think mazda hit the nail on the head with the MS6. I can't wait to see what kind of potential this car has.