Reliability?

[ItsSlow]

Dude you should just sell your car and buy a $300 car from the junkyard. What kind of repair takes 2 months or even a month? 3 bulls*** tickets and boosting in 5th gear? Yeah, sounds like you know how to drive...

I've had my problems with my car, but just about everything that has happened has been due to the fact that I am modding the car for power. That's it. The ******* motor was designed for about 130 hp at the crank. Mazda pushed it to about 170 with a turbo kit. People say that the motor is weak because it's limit is usually around 250hp. Do the ******* math, dude. That is almost double what the motor is designed to handle. Yeah some have blown while stock, but that does not mean that there was not some other problem that caused them to blow. By the way my diff just gave out after 50,000 miles, but I'm not suprised because I have a built motor and just about every bolt on under the sun. You don't hear me bitching and saying mazdas are all s***.

Are you the original owner? Probably not since you just joined the forum in 06. Your car was probably abused by the original owner (whether it is you or someone else). Take your bulls*** negative blanket statements and join import atlanta or some other squid forum where you will fit in or decide to be a forum member that actually tries to contribute something worthwhile and people will stop flaming you. We are all here to help each other and all you seem to do is piss everyone off.

If someone would buy the car, that would be awesome.. I would buy me another galant vr4 and turn the boost up (cause you can do that with Mitsubishi's).. But alas, no one wants one around here cause they arent fast.. Hell if I know why it takes 2 months, talk to the dealership that replaced my motor (they broke a s*** load of stuff while doing it).. Yea, 3 bulls*** tickets.. 2 for no tags and one for no seatbelt (cop was being a dick because he couldnt get me for speeding, and I always wear my seatbelt).. Yea, I boost in 5th gear.. I drive my cars like they were meant to be driven, not try to get the best gas mileage out of them.. Sorry, I dont see what boosting in 5th gear has anything to do with my driving anyways..

Wow, see your showing how smart Mazda is on building a car.. They took a 130hp motor and pushed it to the limits.. The LEAST they could have done was put stronger rods in it, but no that (along with other things) would make it a hell of a lot more reliable..

No, Im not the original owner, but I do happen to know them.. They are actually good friends of mine.. The previous owner was a woman.. It was her daily driver for 2 1/2 yrs..

Im sorry, you must not have seen the threads I made where I took apart my transmission and put somewhat detailed pics up and posted the information to fema (the people who to talk to when a dealership voids your warranty for no reason).. But no, I am no help to this forum since I dont contribute anything.. But until someone buys my car, it looks like Im forced to keep it and look for information about it on here..

 

[ItsSlow]

One thing I realized. The more I dont drive this car, the more I like it..

 

[richmond058]

One thing I realized. The more I dont drive this car, the more I like it..

I am sorry that you have had so much trouble with your car. Perhaps you should try and contact an atorney regarding the lemon laws in TN. The msp came out when alot of other car companies were selling sport compact cars. Mazda saw a way to make money and hence took an economy car and added some go fast bolt-ons etc. in order to compete in the market. They did so just fine and sold all of them. To expect them to put in forged rods, built pistons,abetter intercooler etc. would have defeated the purpose of taking an existing car and competing with the competition. It also would have made the car more expensive and harder to sell. Mazda got what they wanted out of the msp which was a profit.

 

[dirtysouth_msp]

If someone would buy the car, that would be awesome.. I would buy me another galant vr4 and turn the boost up (cause you can do that with Mitsubishi's).. But alas, no one wants one around here cause they arent fast.. Hell if I know why it takes 2 months, talk to the dealership that replaced my motor (they broke a s*** load of stuff while doing it).. Yea, 3 bulls*** tickets.. 2 for no tags and one for no seatbelt (cop was being a dick because he couldnt get me for speeding, and I always wear my seatbelt).. Yea, I boost in 5th gear.. I drive my cars like they were meant to be driven, not try to get the best gas mileage out of them.. Sorry, I dont see what boosting in 5th gear has anything to do with my driving anyways..

Wow, see your showing how smart Mazda is on building a car.. They took a 130hp motor and pushed it to the limits.. The LEAST they could have done was put stronger rods in it, but no that (along with other things) would make it a hell of a lot more reliable..

No, Im not the original owner, but I do happen to know them.. They are actually good friends of mine.. The previous owner was a woman.. It was her daily driver for 2 1/2 yrs..

Im sorry, you must not have seen the threads I made where I took apart my transmission and put somewhat detailed pics up and posted the information to fema (the people who to talk to when a dealership voids your warranty for no reason).. But no, I am no help to this forum since I dont contribute anything.. But until someone buys my car, it looks like Im forced to keep it and look for information about it on here..

OK, your right I have not seen all of your posts and if you have contributed something as you say, then I apologize for that. Maybe, I was a lil rude. But, I still feel the same about just about everything else that has been said. All it really comes down to is that you bought a used car that had been out for two years and did not do your research. Most of the information on this forum was already here by mid 2005 - 2006. People had already blown engines, broken LSD's, etc. Oh and by the way, you should probably search do some reading about boosting in 5th. It puts the engine under an extreme load = not so good for internals that are pushed toward their limit already.

 

[ItsSlow]

OK, your right I have not seen all of your posts and if you have contributed something as you say, then I apologize for that. Maybe, I was a lil rude. But, I still feel the same about just about everything else that has been said. All it really comes down to is that you bought a used car that had been out for two years and did not do your research. Most of the information on this forum was already here by mid 2005 - 2006. People had already blown engines, broken LSD's, etc. Oh and by the way, you should probably search do some reading about boosting in 5th. It puts the engine under an extreme load = not so good for internals that are pushed toward their limit already.

Thats the first thing I read when researching on this car
(boosting in 5th).. So far, it hasnt caused me any problems and neither has my lsd..

 

[dirtysouth_msp]

Thats the first thing I read when researching on this car
(boosting in 5th).. So far, it hasnt caused me any problems and neither has my lsd..

What about the 2 month engine replacement and 1 month tranny repair?(poke)
Whatever, obviously you are as hard headed about your opinions as I am, so this is not doing anything but junking up this guys thread.

Back on topic...

These cars are pretty reliable if cared for properly. However, there are a few things such as the LSD crapping out that could happen no matter what. I've been through worse with some of the other cars I've owned.

 

[GhostMercury]

what ever you can do wheat you want but dont tell people to boost in fifth when its not good for the motor. yea yours hasnt blown but dont cause someones elses to

 

[eric_mspeed]

I think the big thing with this car is that it wasn't really designed to be modified a lot. I know, I know, a lot of people have done so on this list, and some will tell you that they've had no or few problems. Fine, but I think the odds of having a problem with this car when you take the power over stock IS going to be a lot greater than something like a Mitsubishi 4G63T engine like the Eclipse and Galant VR-4 used.

That engine was HIGHLY modified at the factory compared to the non-turbo engine that Mitsubishi made.

The Mazda engine on the other hand,

"Despite a 2.0-liter turbo, the Mazdaspeed Proteg has just enough power. Output was intentionally limited to protect the transmission and to allow the long block to remain the same as the naturally aspirated Proteg's. Sticking to parts already in production for other cars is the only way to offer this much performance for so little money. It's the parts bin curse that makes the intercooler almost uselessly tiny..."
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0301scc_mazda_protege/

I happily (and cautiously) turned up the boost on my Eclipse from the stock 10.5 psi to as high as 16.5 psi before settling at 15psi. But a lot of thought went into that decision and a lot of checking was done:
http://home.comcast.net/~eric-ha/cars/myeclipse2/logging/secondb.html

Oh, and by the way, ItsSlow, I had a Galant VR-4 for a lot longer than you, but I had to get rid of it because the handling sucked. Yes, it was reliable, but without good handling it was nothing to me.

-Eric
thinking about a Mazdaspeed Protege

 

[ItsSlow]

Oh, and by the way, ItsSlow, I had a Galant VR-4 for a lot longer than you, but I had to get rid of it because the handling sucked. Yes, it was reliable, but without good handling it was nothing to me.

Alot of people have had one longer than me.. I only had one for 11 months.. Yea, the handling did suck.. Its at least a 15 yr old car, its to be expected..

What about the 2 month engine replacement and 1 month tranny repair?(poke)
Whatever, obviously you are as hard headed about your opinions as I am, so this is not doing anything but junking up this guys thread.

The engine repair was done by the dealership I bought it from.. The tech that did it is as dumb as cows are fat.. He broke the dipstick (still broke to this day), broke the rear mount (then welded it back together with the rubber still torn) which caused the side mount to tear and they lost a lugnut.. He also couldnt get a regular protege h/g to fit.. They had to order one from J-pan cause 'its a different motor than the regular protege's'..

The tranny repair that took a month long was waiting on time to take the trans out and apart and the parts to come in to fix it..

 

[neox.286]

dude

itslow

you say your engine blew

and admit that you boosted in 5th at low rpms all the time

just cause it doesnt blow while your boosting in 5th doesnt mean that didnt have a HUGE hand in it

think about it, the car isnt designed to take on a huge load...your in 5th gear, and trying to accelerate....not only do you put the car under a lot of stress right there, but add in the boost and it starts FORCING the internals rather then letting the engine naturally get you going...a lot of that stress will weaken the internals, and can raise your chances of a blown car later

you wanna b**** about your blown engine, go b**** to somewhere else, cause we dont wanna sit here and listen to you complain and contradict your complaint...and the tranny in this car IS weak, but the fact that it blew two months after your engine is just coincidence...if it had broken at a completely different time you wouldnt complain about that nearly as much....because it happened so soon your oppinion is that the car is just constantly breaking down

stop bitching about the fact that you cant come to terms with your actions...no ones gonna chew you out if you blew your engine, but dont expect us to sit here and pat you on the back saying that our cars are pieces of s***

and another point, you say that you can turn up the boost in your galant...are you saying that you turned up the boost in your MSP? Ill bet you did, but I doubt youll even admit it here...cause then youll look like an ass for bitching about it

we dont need an apology, but just stop bitching about your msp here...we arent gonna chew you out if you dont give us reason to

 

[ItsSlow]

dude

itslow

you say your engine blew

and admit that you boosted in 5th at low rpms all the time

just cause it doesnt blow while your boosting in 5th doesnt mean that didnt have a HUGE hand in it

think about it, the car isnt designed to take on a huge load...your in 5th gear, and trying to accelerate....not only do you put the car under a lot of stress right there, but add in the boost and it starts FORCING the internals rather then letting the engine naturally get you going...a lot of that stress will weaken the internals, and can raise your chances of a blown car later

you wanna b**** about your blown engine, go b**** to somewhere else, cause we dont wanna sit here and listen to you complain and contradict your complaint...and the tranny in this car IS weak, but the fact that it blew two months after your engine is just coincidence...if it had broken at a completely different time you wouldnt complain about that nearly as much....because it happened so soon your oppinion is that the car is just constantly breaking down

stop bitching about the fact that you cant come to terms with your actions...no ones gonna chew you out if you blew your engine, but dont expect us to sit here and pat you on the back saying that our cars are pieces of s***

and another point, you say that you can turn up the boost in your galant...are you saying that you turned up the boost in your MSP? Ill bet you did, but I doubt youll even admit it here...cause then youll look like an ass for bitching about it

we dont need an apology, but just stop bitching about your msp here...we arent gonna chew you out if you dont give us reason to

Who said anything about boosting at low rpms? I never said I did that.. I said I boosted in 5th gear, not at low rpms, thats just pointless cause the car doesnt go anywhere..

And yea, I did turn the boost up in my galant.. Not in the msp though, it had a manual boost controller on it when I got it (was told it was set to 6 psi).. It started to hit fuel cut so I took it off.. Didnt put it back on.. I actually let a friend borrow it and have yet to see it back (Im sort of glad for that too)..

 

[neox.286]

even still

when I say at low rpms Im talking under 4k

 

[ItsSlow]

Yea ok.. Boosting in 5th for me is talking about doing about 90+ and boosting, WOT or half throttle..

 

[neox.286]

alright

but even still

my originaly point was we dont wanna hear your bitching...and if you expect us to sit here and not chew you out for bashing every single mazda ever made when your on a freaking mazda forum, your sadly mistaken

 

[ItsSlow]

Sorry, didnt mean to piss in your cheerios..

 

[rjs_protege5]

+1

well then go sell your msp. im trying to help him not bash every car on this site. if you dont like mazdas anything then go to a srt4 forum and talk s*** there cause thats all most of them do. if you would like to help people and own a mazda then stfu

 

[Dr.Sound]

bahaha

*looks at n00bs arguing, points and laughs*

oh and Yash, WTF man, where are the "U'RE A SMELLY BIOTCH" PMs that i treasure so much.
say hi to linux for me.

 

[M.S.P]

I almost bought a MSP, but backed away after a few LSD issues, etc. I just troll around because my g/f has a protege 5. I still debate wether or not to get a MSP as a daily driver now that I have my weekend car.

 

[Rally Ninja]

First car I've ever owned and had any mechanical problems. First time I've ever had to bring it to a mechanic as well.

 

[AgentOrange]

Even after all the problems I've had with my car I can't say I dont love it still, I test drove alot of cars when I thought about selling my MSP but they all didnt feel right....Now for reliability I've been running 14 psi since the car hit 115,000 km...its now at 171,000 km on a stock block...hasent popped (knock on wood) though I have had 2 tranny rebuilds, 1 complete tranny replacement(its what happens when the dealership forgets to tighten the drain plug on the tranny) , 2 blower fans, 1 turbo, 2 manifold replacements, 1 cat..