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- 2010 Mazda5 GT
R&T: WRX vs Cobalt SS vs MS3 vs Lancer RA
- Thread starter Hank3
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R&T just wanted to see a flame war for the 1st time around these parts.
Regardless it's good that cars like this keep upping the ante because we keep getting great inexpensive fast cars.
I've got to say that the cobalt is great for what it is, but the styling is ancient and with its torsion beam and optional limited slip it just doesn't add up for me. Again the car needs a complete overhaul in terms of styling inside and out.
I feel the ralliart isn't getting the props it deserves, and the scooby doo was pretty darn quick. Kudos to Subie for listening to their fanboys.
MS3 still = most powerful (torque), best interior, best looking, extra sixth gear = #1 in my book.
Regardless it's good that cars like this keep upping the ante because we keep getting great inexpensive fast cars.
I've got to say that the cobalt is great for what it is, but the styling is ancient and with its torsion beam and optional limited slip it just doesn't add up for me. Again the car needs a complete overhaul in terms of styling inside and out.
I feel the ralliart isn't getting the props it deserves, and the scooby doo was pretty darn quick. Kudos to Subie for listening to their fanboys.
MS3 still = most powerful (torque), best interior, best looking, extra sixth gear = #1 in my book.
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In terms of daily driver-wise the Japanese are still on top
I still think the MS3 is tops with respect to most well-rounded, refined package for the money. The Cobalt is fine if you want a cheap car with some balls. But I'm not the type that likes to loose my creature comforts and pride of ownership for a cool suspension and power. After all you got to live with the car beyond the confines of the racetrack. In that regard the Mitsu, Subie and MS3 crush the Cobalt.
I still think the MS3 is tops with respect to most well-rounded, refined package for the money. The Cobalt is fine if you want a cheap car with some balls. But I'm not the type that likes to loose my creature comforts and pride of ownership for a cool suspension and power. After all you got to live with the car beyond the confines of the racetrack. In that regard the Mitsu, Subie and MS3 crush the Cobalt.
jdm justin
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I don't like the look at all of the Cobalt and the interior makes me want to puke. (notcool)
jdm justin
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- 2008.5 Mazdaspeed 3
I agree
Renzokuken
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- 2007 Mazdaspeed 3
Its like having a girl thats great in bed that looks fugly as hell.
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The cobalt is the worst looking car both inside and outside. Not to mention it's the bottom of the pack in quality. I'd own a vette, but that's about the only Chevy.
It doesn't surprise me that "positioning" of titles is switching....this is the last year and the 09's are carryovers.
It doesn't surprise me that "positioning" of titles is switching....this is the last year and the 09's are carryovers.
Depressing? I think its exciting. They will come out with a new model dont worry, but nobody has really any idea to what it will be, i also heard they might take one year break and go back toa 2010 mazdaspeed 6.
back to topic, yeah the Cobalt is Ugly, reminds of a Corolla LOL.
Speed 3 looks really nice for a hatch. And props for subaru for getting back in.
ANd i agree i think the Mitsu ralliart is underrated. its a great car with 230 hp + and looks sharp, i love teh Front aggressive end style. escpecially to those people who cant afford the evo for 50 grand.(canada).
wonder how the 08-07 wrx owners feel 
always been a subaru fan myself so im happy for them and excited to start seeing some.... but about the Cobalt, seriously?
haha at least with the girl you can use a paper bag or close your eyes... but what are you supposed to do with the Cobalt?
always been a subaru fan myself so im happy for them and excited to start seeing some.... but about the Cobalt, seriously? haha at least with the girl you can use a paper bag or close your eyes... but what are you supposed to do with the Cobalt?
i agree too.
my only question is: why would anyone make a 260hp fwd car without limited slip????
nice comparison. i think they're all great cars. they each have their pros and cons.
03.5-dc-speed
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in my opinion and families experience chevys are built great with quality. if the cobalt didnt look like a girl car or boring then i would have thought more about getting it. and i really like how they made a 4 door ss.
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Said even better
That statement says it even better than my little diatribe Well done.(rockon)
That statement says it even better than my little diatribe
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Great job by Chevy, Ford is next.
Road and Track have always done the worst in the Mazdaspeed3- they get the worst 0-60 times out of all the magazine, and the worst 1/4 times too. Do they have something against the speed3?
I bet if Car & Driver did this comparision, it would be Mazdaspeed3 than the Lancer, than the WRX and finally the Cobalt.
If its road and track, why are they only testing the track? The cobalt looks bad, has bad quality, and I don't think it would hold up as long as the MS3.
I bet if Car & Driver did this comparision, it would be Mazdaspeed3 than the Lancer, than the WRX and finally the Cobalt.
If its road and track, why are they only testing the track? The cobalt looks bad, has bad quality, and I don't think it would hold up as long as the MS3.
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