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What if I get the AWD and yank out the front axles so I become RWD?
I understand all of the videos people have linked, but none of them compare the performance to a non-AWD version, so there is no way to quantify if there is any advantage.People keep linking videos and you continue to gloss over them, that is testing on a track.
Now your claiming Mazda is lying to everyone with their AWD promotional materials??
As mentioned 100 times, this thread is only about warm dry weather conditions. And you already acknowledged that I was correct, so I don't know why you keep fighting about it.Again, the AWD drivetrain is superior to the FWD in all types of driving conditions.
It's not that simple. AWD systems add weight and drivetrain power losses.Ultimately, it comes down to this: If at any point you are able to smash the throttle and the front tires lose traction because of it: AWD would have helped you.
It's not that simple. AWD systems add weight and drivetrain power losses.
Just because you might chirp the tires at full throttle launch doesn't mean that AWD would provided better overall performance.
Car & Driver acknowledged this when they tested the FWD and AWD CX-5...
Despite increased launch traction, the heftier AWD model’s straight-line performance fell behind its lighter FWD kin.
It is not torque vectoring like the Acura, it simply adjust the amount of torque sent to the rear based on computer sampling
Just because you might chirp the tires at full throttle launch doesn't mean that AWD would provided better overall performance.
Mazda got some reaction in Subaru forums a few years ago when Mazda claimed it's AWD was as good as or better than Subaru's.
As posted before, the AWD version did not perform any better on the skidpad, which is the only objective measure of roadholding/handling.
These are the EXACT SAME POINTS I've been making since this thread began.And the answer is it does not do what is being debated here, will not aid dry weather handling by sending torque to outside wheel. It can't split power left to right.
Will it aid handling set up as is? Hard to see how sudden power to both rears helps in a corner to any discernible degree.
The performance diff is not likely to be felt. IF OP really wants better cornering, prob better to buy a sedan and a roofbox.
These are the EXACT SAME POINTS I've been making since this thread began.
I'll be interested to see if the AWD proponents go after you for expressing the same position as me!
Just because you might chirp the tires at full throttle launch doesn't mean that AWD would provided better overall performance.
Car & Driver acknowledged this when they tested the FWD and AWD CX-5...
Despite increased launch traction, the heftier AWD model’s straight-line performance fell behind its lighter FWD kin.
No, we do not differ on that point.But where we differ is whether AWD with vectoring helps. I believe you think it doesn't (correct me if that's wrong). I believe it does. And i think Audi, MB, acura drivers know that numbers don't tell the whole story.
The question is whether or not the predictive system uses the sensor info to "pre-load" the AWD system in clean, dry conditions.
No, we do not differ on that point.
I actually never commented on AWD with vectoring here, but agree with your position.
Great way to re-phrase my question