Protege Garage Intake Mani & NSN IM spacer review

[djdanny5000]

i have n/a buyers on another forum who are going to supposedly dyno for me and answer that for sure. the general thought is, yes, it should offer n/a increases.

awsome cant wait to see what the dyno shows on an n\a will definately buy later on if the gains are good

 

[Captain KRM P5]

awsome cant wait to see what the dyno shows on an n\a will definately buy later on if the gains are good

honestly i am pessmistic which is why i have not been pushing this manifold for anyone other than msp or turbo protege owners, but the initial feedback i have gotten on how the car feels after install is good so i may be proven wrong

 

[mspHtown]

so inorder to get the intake installed and CEL free, you have to buy the intake, buy the egr pipe(that you sell), and buy an intake manifold gasket and throttle body gasket?

 

[Captain KRM P5]

correct

 

[mspHtown]

can i get all of it through protegegarage?

 

[Captain KRM P5]

can i get all of it through protegegarage?

i have yet to price out the gaskets, but otherwise yes

 

[65racecoupe]

Ken, since I am ordering some stuff from you anyway, I am now looking at this part.

Question. What is your estimate increase on a 330 whp 2.0 Thumper (T3/T4) with built engine (stock head) at 14 psi. Would you say it might go to say, 340, 345 @ the same boost with your manifold?

Also, I was wondering about the stock manifold weight versus yours.

 

[Striker187]

this might sound like a really really dumb question but did the intake manifold move the throttle body any? i noticed you had an fmic kit so my guess is no but just wanted to make sure.

 

[65racecoupe]

this might sound like a really really dumb question but did the intake manifold move the throttle body any? i noticed you had an fmic kit so my guess is no but just wanted to make sure.

No, it doesn't.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Ken, since I am ordering some stuff from you anyway, I am now looking at this part.

Question. What is your estimate increase on a 330 whp 2.0 Thumper (T3/T4) with built engine (stock head) at 14 psi. Would you say it might go to say, 340, 345 @ the same boost with your manifold?

Also, I was wondering about the stock manifold weight versus yours.

i'd say your horsepower estimates are fair guesses

 

[65racecoupe]

i'd say your horsepower estimates are fair guesses

Then it is worth the money. (cheers)

 

[Rumpleforeskin]

If you have a stock 2-piece manifold that holds a volume of (lets use a round number) 2 liters of air. Suppose you switch down to a manifold that only has the internal volume of 1 liter won't your engine see more boost since it's not filling a larger resivoir?

Does this make sense?

p.s. Koreys cars for t3h w!n!!....well Koreys and mine now!

 

[orng1]

If you have a stock 2-piece manifold that holds a volume of (lets use a round number) 2 liters of air. Suppose you switch down to a manifold that only has the internal volume of 1 liter won't your engine see more boost since it's not filling a larger resivoir?

Does this make sense?

p.s. Koreys cars for t3h w!n!!....well Koreys and mine now!

Well the way I see it, is the intake would fill a bit faster the wastegate won't let you see more boost. It would open as soon as it sees the boost target 6psi open. The power gained is from the length of the runners and less restriction of it not the volume. Unleess I've seen it wrong.

Orng1/Bob

 

[65racecoupe]

A pic of a stocker next to Ken's piece would be cool.....

 

[Bala]

A pic of a stocker next to Ken's piece would be cool.....

(mswerd)

 

[Rumpleforeskin]

Well the way I see it, is the intake would fill a bit faster the wastegate won't let you see more boost. It would open as soon as it sees the boost target 6psi open. The power gained is from the length of the runners and less restriction of it not the volume. Unleess I've seen it wrong.

Orng1/Bob

no you're right...I wasn't thinking about turbo's wastegates when I posted that. I was thinking of another form of non-turbo boost that is not wastegate dependent to make boost. For that application it would probably make more power though.

 

[Shadow102]

this might sound like a really really dumb question but did the intake manifold move the throttle body any? i noticed you had an fmic kit so my guess is no but just wanted to make sure.

Those are acutally just DSM hard pipes and in fact it did more the throttle body with the IM spacer. However it moved it just enough to a better location i no longer have the problem of the pipe hitting the master cylander and most people do.

Also, I was wondering about the stock manifold weight versus yours.

Trust me there is atleast a 5-10lbs difference the two biggest areas you can see this in the pictures are the decreased profile of the top of the intake and it is ver noticable on the alternator side as i can look straight down and see the entire alternator assembly and belt tensioner setup. Also the box Ken sent me the 626 mani in had room to spare for that intake i now have the stock on in there and well let the pic speak for itself:

 

[03.5MSP]

Which gaskets do we need with this?? The stock MSP gaskets??

 

[Shadow102]

Which gaskets do we need with this?? The stock MSP gaskets??

Yes just the intake manifold and throttle body gasket. Any 00-03 2.0L protege gasket works it is not specific to the MSP.



I forgot to add, since i have already done it previously, that while installing this would be a very oppertune time to do the throttle body coolant bypass mod

 

[ca_deal1]

Hum, any update of the install manual yet? It would really help.