Please add Icespeed to...

[evilmonkeyMSP]

bah! that sucks man...looks like the only smart option is to rebuild and enjoy it....

This makes me glad I owe less than 6 on mine...

 

[kelsmazda]

very very long story.

I bought this car Dec 18, 2003. I didn't necessarily need a new car, but my little brother went and did something really stupid. He owned a 2001 Integra GSR. He financed it over 6 years and then hit a school bus. Damage to the driver fender. Rather than trading it in, he went out and bought a nissan frontier. He thought he could sell his cool 2fast 2furious GSR privately. He didn't. My parents asked me to trade his car in, since it was about time I bought a "new" car. He owed 15k, it's "true" value was 6k.

My MSP's MSRP was 21k. There was a $2500.00 rebate. I got them down to 18k, then the 2500 rebate put me at 15.5. Add the 9k from my brother's car and I was at 24.5k. +Taxes tags, etc, it was a little over 26k, total. $1250 cash down and I financed $24,9XX over the five years. I was a first time "new" car buyer (another rediculous story) so they hit me for 12.99%. $563.00/mo. My brother was supposed to give me $150.00/month for 6 years to offset the $563.00. Yeah, haven't seen a dime yet. I had to refinance in Dec 05 to bring down the rediculous payment. $363.00/mo... it'll finally be mine in Dec '10.

Parents just told me yesterday that they hope I learned my lesson and won't be helping me w/ fixing it. Went by the dealership yesterday, there's no way to hide 11,700 (turns out the payoff is 1300 less than I thought) in any car. So, I'm screwed

Ironically, 9K @ 12.99 for 48 mos. (which is exactly how long I've had the car) is $11,587.20. Basically what my brother owes me. Although, in reality, it's my name, it's my debt and since he won't be paying me anytime soon, as he hasn't given me a penny since I bought the car, it's my problem.

So, here are the morals of this story:

A) lol, don't boost 12lbs for 90k miles in an "unmodded" MSP.
B) Never, ever, ever try to help your family out, financially.
C) Never, ever, ever believe that your family will help you out in the same fashion.

So, that is how I still have $11,700 left on this car.

Wow that so sounds like something that would happen with me! I'd keep the MSP and fix it...I wanted one when they came out but I just had the boring protege' and they didn't have the speed 3 yet when I bought my 3 so once again I bought too early and couldn't get it...nor could I afford it. It's cheaper to just fix it....then sell it in a couple of yrs

 

[avarela86]

Called TBK, I will try to have that info for you soon Sean.

 

[ogsp5]

TBK is that wise ? No flame wars.

 

[P5Alive]

Don't feel so bad. I blew the camshaft bearings on the 5 a couple months ago...traded it in for a 3...totaled that two weeks later and now I'm in a box (Xb).

 

[kelsmazda]

Don't feel so bad. I blew the camshaft bearings on the 5 a couple months ago...traded it in for a 3...totaled that two weeks later and now I'm in a box (Xb).

Ouch!

 

[Scott]

Honestly, Sean...I would just get it running, then move onto something else.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

have kooldino build you a motor. it'll be badass..plus, your car is awesome. don't get rid of it yet.

 

[Alejo_NIN]

i told you!
12 psi wihtout proper tunning were gonna bite you in the ass..

any time now my motor will say bye bye too
i'm getting closer and closer to 100k miles


but i want to be prepared for when that happens, so i'll buy bullets for my shotgun

 

[nvmsp]

I say fix it whether or not you put a stock motor or upgraded motor in.You still owe money so... you might as well. Then sell it when its paid off, this car should hold atleast 10,000 in value by then.

 

[icespeed]

i told you!
12 psi wihtout proper tunning were gonna bite you in the ass..

any time now my motor will say bye bye too
i'm getting closer and closer to 100k miles


but i want to be prepared for when that happens, so i'll buy bullets for my shotgun

lol, read the thread again, junior!

Besides, we've come to the conclusion that I floated a valve... the head failed first, not the bottom

 

[avarela86]

Im at 100k plus with a bigger turbo, knocking and still no ticking, just all go.

 

[ogsp5]

pm me your # maybe I can come over on sunday

 

[shane02pro5]

Valve float at 12psi on the stock turbo doesn't sound right?

 

[icespeed]

Yeah, a valve was sticking for the better part of two weeks... loud ticking noise at half throttle and barely ticking at idle only. WOT, clutch and decellerating RPM's caused no ticking.

We all came to the conclusion (as in theorize) that the sticking valve "floated" when the engine went.

There were no signs of detonation before the "boom". The ticking noise wasn't piston slap. I'm not running the bottome end of the CAI, so I'm pretty confident it wasn't water. It definately wasn't knocking (please see detonation comment).

As far as I am aware, the airflow (psi) doesn't effect the valve springs, cams or valves. Or should I say, the small pressure of 12lbs/in2 would have a very very very small effect on the valves crowns, considering the average psi in a combustion chamber is a solid order greater than what my turbo was boosting.

Speaking of which, anyone know our combustion pressure? 200psi?

A possibility that crossed my mind was that the turbo failed, causing pieces to fly into the chamber. So far, no evidence supports this. The vanes of the intake side seem to be intact. It is still turning without sticking, although, there is oil all over the CAI and charged hot pipe.

I'm starting a new thread about the progression of my "destall". Pics will be up there.