Piston/rod package.

flat_black said:
Oh, cool, stroker kits? Really? What's the difference in stroke? 92mm worth of stroke is already pretty big. =)

To get up to 2.3L with stroke alone, you'd need about 105mm of stroke, which is 5mm more than the largest stroke on a production engine that is currently being produced. Maybe 2.3L is a bit much to ask, short of overboring AND stroking, and even that, you'd have to have 98mm of stroke and 86mm of bore... That's a 3mm overbore, and a 6mm stroke increase, which would most likely go way into the water jackets.

Take a breath man...
Nick didn't say anything about stroker kits. He modifies the crank to run a different type of bearing.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
Take a breath man...
Nick didn't say anything about stroker kits. He modifies the crank to run a different type of bearing.

Yes and no. We can do a 92.5 stroker crank kit with big bore pistons. .040 over 11.5 to 1 very light weight pistons and our ultra light rods would make a very fast reving and powerful NA Protege.
 
What do your kits go for? This sounds like it's more what I want to do. Of course I would have to save up.
 
MPNick said:
Yes and no. We can do a 92.5 stroker crank kit with big bore pistons. .040 over 11.5 to 1 very light weight pistons and our ultra light rods would make a very fast reving and powerful NA Protege.


Offset grind it?

I was gonna do that to my forged 4" crank, but I decided I didn't need any more torque.
 
mp3moose said:
Wow, wish this was around 3 years ago. Better late then never!!

He's been around for about 3 years now. Most of this is not new, he has always been able to build motors and has built quite a few. I think his first built motor was back in 2002 I believe.
 
Bigg Tim said:
He's been around for about 3 years now. Most of this is not new, he has always been able to build motors and has built quite a few. I think his first built motor was back in 2002 I believe.

I never heard of stroking the fs-de. Well, other than on paper.
 
mp3moose said:
I never heard of stroking the fs-de. Well, other than on paper.

No one said he stroked one???? He has just been building them and offering parts. I do believe his first motor was a long rod setup, but not a stroked? Where did you get that from?

edit: If you are talking about the 92.5 stroke, I did not consider that a stroker kit. I thought you were talking about like a 2.2l or something like that
 
Hughes412 said:
So is the reason there is no price for the stoker kit yet because of sticker shock?
It depends on what kind of sticker you are looking at.

Big Bore stroker kit is a 2.1L.
Complete kit includes.
big bore ultra light pistons and low tension rings. compression ratio from 9.5 to 12.5. Bigger valve pockets for larger valve:)[coming soon] and higher lift camshafts.
balanced light weight stroker crankshaft. Lighter then stock, better oiling then stock and larger fillets for higher rpm load.
Ultra light rods. very light weight and still strong, also good for mid turbo.
HD rod bearings, bearing load capacity, bearing oiling and lower oil temp.
FM/OEM main bearing.
$2380.00.
 
So you just leave the plastigauge on the crankshaft to make it a "stroker"?
 
So I think I'm confused. So these are just parts that I would install on my block and head? And is this for the 2.0 Protege? I just want to be sure, so far this sounds just like what I am looking for and so far the price don't look to bad for what all you get
 
I believe thses are the parts for the build, but I could be wrong.

Hey old man, what about the turboed guy's??? 2.1L stuff fer us? How much for you to to it all?(poke)
 
Hughes412 said:
So I think I'm confused. So these are just parts that I would install on my block and head? And is this for the 2.0 Protege? I just want to be sure, so far this sounds just like what I am looking for and so far the price don't look to bad for what all you get

You would need to have your block bored and honed to fit our big bore pistons. As with most stroker engines the bottom of the cylinder walls would need to be clearanced the larger stroke. Any good machine shop can do this. If you do not feel good with any near you you can send us the block and we can do the machine work for you.

As for the cylinder head. It will work fine in stock form. If later on down the road you would like to do one of our big valve heads with a custom set of camshafts you are fine. The pistons are already set for them.
 
Nick, what's the maximum overbore you'd think is feasable with the FS block? I'd like to bore up to 84.5mm (.060") or 85mm (.080"), but I havn't really been privy to exploring the block terribly much. I have a spare downstairs, but I havn't measured any wall thickness, or really seen how much clearance the water jackets have, and so on. The head gasket seems to have plenty of clearance for an 85mm bore, though. Anyway, let me know what you think, if there's any way I can get to 84.5-85mm bore, even if it requires additional building.
 
flat_black said:
Nick, what's the maximum overbore you'd think is feasable with the FS block? I'd like to bore up to 84.5mm (.060") or 85mm (.080"), but I havn't really been privy to exploring the block terribly much. I have a spare downstairs, but I havn't measured any wall thickness, or really seen how much clearance the water jackets have, and so on. The head gasket seems to have plenty of clearance for an 85mm bore, though. Anyway, let me know what you think, if there's any way I can get to 84.5-85mm bore, even if it requires additional building.

He told me .040 would be safe. I guess you could go biggerm but you risk going into the jackets. He would be able to tell you 100% though
 

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