MazdaSpeedSter
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^bump!!!!!
Um... stock boost is 6psi, .41 khpa or bar as people know it...
Um... stock boost is 6psi, .41 khpa or bar as people know it...
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Perrin Intake installed!!! Whoo Hoo!
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MazdaSpeedSter
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- Laser Blue MSP #2733_sold
they said there "TOP" tech is handling the problem today. Lots of other people are having the same problem.
PERRIN_JOHN
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Hey guys, sounds like we have a dilemma here. I have found two forums where members have encountered the same problem so I will post copies of this passage in each.
I discussed this issue with our technicians this morning. I informed them of the drivability issue that has been raised on the forum boards. Our in house test vehicles have not ever had any sort of idle or stalling problems. Today our technicians will take time to try to replicate the problems described here. I would encourage every one who has had a problem to call our technical staff, who can help you with this problem.
I will gladly post the results of our testing later today for all the members to see.
Obviously there are multiple people experiencing the same problem. We will work hard to find an answer and get everyone taken care of.
I must say, I was greatly encouraged by the number of members who were willing to remove their existing intake systems to install a PERRIN intake system.
I hope that we can continue to earn your patronage.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
I discussed this issue with our technicians this morning. I informed them of the drivability issue that has been raised on the forum boards. Our in house test vehicles have not ever had any sort of idle or stalling problems. Today our technicians will take time to try to replicate the problems described here. I would encourage every one who has had a problem to call our technical staff, who can help you with this problem.
I will gladly post the results of our testing later today for all the members to see.
Obviously there are multiple people experiencing the same problem. We will work hard to find an answer and get everyone taken care of.
I must say, I was greatly encouraged by the number of members who were willing to remove their existing intake systems to install a PERRIN intake system.
I hope that we can continue to earn your patronage.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
AFaceInTheCrowd
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- 2010 Subaru Legacy GT
Hey John, i wanna say how awesome this is that you're working on it this quickly. i'm pretty sure that the problem lies in the location of the bypass fitting. i have no doubt that you'll get it fixed. once it is, i too will have to replace my current intake for a perrin intake. 
PERRIN_JOHN
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Problem discovered!
These unfortunate parts have been assembled incorrectly. Our mistake.
Our warehouse staff thought that the part was assembled in a different manner.
Let me explain further..
The silicone body of the intake system comes with two preinstalled fiberglass reinforced nipples. The larger of the two nipples was installed incorrectly on all intakes, which were shipped out.
Every silicone product, assembled here in the building, uses plastic nipples or adaptors pressed from the outside in. This particular silicone piece uses a nipple which is pressed from the inside out.
The problem here was based on BOV turbulence. (as speculated) Because one of the nipples was installed incorrectly it blew turbulent air right at the MAF sensor.
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Of course our test vehicle turned over and drove just fine this morning. During testing our technicians were mystified. They incorrectly assumed that the parts forum members were having troubles with were in perfect working order, which would rule out the possibility turbulent air blowing against the MAF sensor.
They spent the rest of the day trying to replicate the situation until one of our shipping employees pointed out that the intakes he had put together were assembled differently.
After reassembling our intake system in a similar fashion as the intakes that went out..what do you know.the car doesnt run.
Yeaahhh problem found.(cool)
LucklyThis is an easy fix. If everyone who is having a problem would like to give our technical department a call tomorrow, we will walk you through the reinstallation of the plastic nipple. We will have you up and running in a matter of minutes.
All of the forum members input was wonderful. You are all pretty good troubleshooters.
On a separate note
I see some people commenting on the design of our intake..
The basis of our design is to make the intake as short as possible to feed the turbo fresh air as quickly as possible. Other intake systems are forced to extend their intake piping to separate the BOV recirculation bung away form the MAF sensor so air turbulence cannot affect MAF readings. The longer your intake system is.the less efficient it becomes.
The PERRIN intake system features a piece inside the intake system to direct the BOV recirculated air away from the MAF sensor. Allowing the intake body to be as short as possible.
If I have not explained the issue enough please let me know..
Also we have a help line available to customers who experience these problems during installation. Please do not hesitate to call if you have any questions..and please all of you who have had an problem with your PERRIN intakeGive us a call. Lets get you on the road and enjoying your new intakes
1.503.643.4677
Tech@perrinperformance.com
Cheers (drinks)
These unfortunate parts have been assembled incorrectly. Our mistake.
Our warehouse staff thought that the part was assembled in a different manner.
Let me explain further..
The silicone body of the intake system comes with two preinstalled fiberglass reinforced nipples. The larger of the two nipples was installed incorrectly on all intakes, which were shipped out.
Every silicone product, assembled here in the building, uses plastic nipples or adaptors pressed from the outside in. This particular silicone piece uses a nipple which is pressed from the inside out.
The problem here was based on BOV turbulence. (as speculated) Because one of the nipples was installed incorrectly it blew turbulent air right at the MAF sensor.
__________
Of course our test vehicle turned over and drove just fine this morning. During testing our technicians were mystified. They incorrectly assumed that the parts forum members were having troubles with were in perfect working order, which would rule out the possibility turbulent air blowing against the MAF sensor.
They spent the rest of the day trying to replicate the situation until one of our shipping employees pointed out that the intakes he had put together were assembled differently.
After reassembling our intake system in a similar fashion as the intakes that went out..what do you know.the car doesnt run.
Yeaahhh problem found.(cool)
LucklyThis is an easy fix. If everyone who is having a problem would like to give our technical department a call tomorrow, we will walk you through the reinstallation of the plastic nipple. We will have you up and running in a matter of minutes.
All of the forum members input was wonderful. You are all pretty good troubleshooters.
On a separate note
I see some people commenting on the design of our intake..
The basis of our design is to make the intake as short as possible to feed the turbo fresh air as quickly as possible. Other intake systems are forced to extend their intake piping to separate the BOV recirculation bung away form the MAF sensor so air turbulence cannot affect MAF readings. The longer your intake system is.the less efficient it becomes.
The PERRIN intake system features a piece inside the intake system to direct the BOV recirculated air away from the MAF sensor. Allowing the intake body to be as short as possible.
If I have not explained the issue enough please let me know..
Also we have a help line available to customers who experience these problems during installation. Please do not hesitate to call if you have any questions..and please all of you who have had an problem with your PERRIN intakeGive us a call. Lets get you on the road and enjoying your new intakes
1.503.643.4677
Tech@perrinperformance.com
Cheers (drinks)
MazdaSpeedSter
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- Laser Blue MSP #2733_sold
(dance) OUTSTANDING!
MazdaSpeedSter
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The fix(eekdance) . I'm not sure I feel safe with that piece inside the intake like that. If it would fall out, the turbo would not be covered by warrenty. Is there any way to have a silicone peice made into the intake just like the plastic 90 is suppose to set inside the intake?
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TX Speed Demon
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Home Depot sells 90degree plastic bends in 3/4" diameter in the sprinkler section for about $1.50 each. They are about twice as long as the one that comes with the perrin intake. I got some and there is enough room to use two clamps on the outside so I'm not to worried about the stock piece falling into the turbo.
TX Speed Demon
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mazdaspdprotege said:
I am recirculating the greddy now, couldn't get it to stop stalling with the greddy venting. I think the problem for me is the new location of the greddy. When it was on my tubo>intercooler pipe I could vent just fine cause it caught enough surge. Once I got the hiboost kit and the greddy was moved to the intercooler>throttlebody pipe I would still get either really bad compressor surge, or bad stalling. I couldn't get it to work correctly so switched to recirculating the greddy into the perrin last weekend. No problems now.
MazdaSpeedSter
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Hey get me the UPC on the back of the package where the bar code is (all the numbers, even the very end ones). The home depot I work at doesn't have any, or any others around me... Thanks...
