(big sigh) I must say... I'm dissapointed with myself. I just spent a good 10 minutes reading some mindless dribble from a bunch of RSX owners who think their names are spelled with a G-O-D. Get real!! Don't get me wrong, I WAS pleasantly surprised by a few of them... but there's usually a few cool guys on every board. (obviously we're ALL cool on this one) But seriously, what a waste of time. It reminded me of the time I argued about who would win in a fight between Superman and He-man!!! (I was in like 6th grade... ok ok!! it was last week! haha j/k) seriously... they wonder why they have such a bad reputation!! (hmm... maybe they're too stupid to wonder) The fact that these few guys care so much about who has the "better" car proves only one thing. They have tiny dicks. What else could it be??? I'm relatively new to this board, but I haven't seen too much of this go on thus far. Most of us keep things civil, bring up important, relavant information on our car in hopes of helping our fellow MSP owners out. THAT's what a message board like this is all about. Now sure... sometimes things get a little out of hand. I just got out of an absurd discussion on SRT-4s... essentially it was a misunderstanding. Me jokingly making fun of the SRT-4 was interpruted a bit more seriously than it should have... just like my desire to tune my car to levels that could match it's performance. A bad thing? I didn't think so! More of a sign of respect than anything else if you ask me. The bottom line is... It seems that we're a different breed. (compared to the RSX owners I just heard from at least) Maybe we're all a bit more secure with ourselves and our cars... secure enough not to bash the competition but instead, respect it. I've played football all my life... there were always that group of guys in the locker room who would go on and on about how much the other team sucks. Not surpisingly, they didn't make it very far. It's the smart player that respects the competition enough to want to emulate it's strong suits while exploiting its weaknesses in a strategic, intellegent manner that truly excels. I'd like to think that description epitomizes the typical MSP owner. If I wasn't proud to be a member of THIS community before I read some of their remarks... I am now. L8R