Passive arming alarm with turbo timer

[Ryan]

I know this is a super old thread, but it's better then starting a new one.

So I'm confused...

Does this second dipswitch thing actually arm the alarm 1 min after engine shuts off?

or

Does is only the alarm LED starting blink but the alarm is not armed?

the led will not start flashing and the alarm is not armed doing it this way... the only thing it does one min after the car shuts off is lock the doors.

from what i remember i got tired of it.. so i just waited the 30 - 1 min depending and killed the car and got out like normal.

 

[MSPRO]

I have mine TT hooked up and I have it set to 1 min. I usually shut it off and then get my purse and everything and whatever else I need out of the car and by that time its almost ready to shut off. All I do is use the lock button on the key-fob and it seems to activate the alarm. I still have the perimeter sensors and everything if I do it that way. I hear my car honk once and a while when one of the really loud honda's rolls by so I know its works. So unless you are going to be leaving the car on for like 5 mins or are to far away when it shuts off , it seems that the key-fob is the trick to making the alarm work.

 

[unwound]

talk about a blash from the past!

ok, this is my experience with the "dipswitch flip".

the car is only lockable with the lock button on the door panel. once the TT turns off the alarm "passively arms" after 30 seconds, meaning you will not hear it arm or see the lights flash. the LED on dash is blinking and you can use you transmitter to get in and out of the car. the only catch is that you have to start the car within 30 seconds or the alarm will arm itself again.

hope this helps clear stuff up, and give you new guys something to try.

 

[Dr.Sound]

Never mind, can't get the link to work. Here it is:

"You really want to know how to do it?

1. Get a five pole single throw BOSCH relay.

2. Pin 87a goes to nothing

3. Pin 87 goes to the alarm's 12v ignition input

4. Pin 85 goes to ground

5. Pin 86 goes to 12v output of the Turbo Timer

6. Pin 30 goes to 12v switched ignition.

7. Then there is a wire that goes from the Turbo Timer output to the ignition, but it has to have a diode with the anode (not the cathode) towards the key side of the switch on the far side of the splice to the relay from the Turbo Timer's output.

Make sense?

Britt

As always, verify all connections with a DVM."

Britt


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this DOES NOT WORK!
tried it.
tried other things too.
tried it with 2 guys that each had 10year experience with alarms.

mazda alarm will not work, it's too simple and needs a constant 12v to run, if the constant power is cut in any way, then it will not arm.

i dont want to go in too deep into this, but there is nothing you can do to make it work, sorry.

if someone makes it work then i will say i was wrong, but untill then...

 

[Dr.Sound]

there is on the other hand a way to make your car lock with remote while the TT is on.
i mean LOCK, not ARM.

it will lock the doors with remote, but not arm the alarm.

this is so that u dont have to press the switch on the door every time.

walk away, press the remote, and the doors will lock.

 

[krillin]

there is on the other hand a way to make your car lock with remote while the TT is on.
i mean LOCK, not ARM.

it will lock the doors with remote, but not arm the alarm.

this is so that u dont have to press the switch on the door every time.

walk away, press the remote, and the doors will lock.

you sure about that vic?

"hey vic, check this out!"

 

[Dr.Sound]

^ little punk!

 

[unwound]

this DOES NOT WORK!
tried it.
tried other things too.
tried it with 2 guys that each had 10year experience with alarms.

mazda alarm will not work, it's too simple and needs a constant 12v to run, if the constant power is cut in any way, then it will not arm.

i dont want to go in too deep into this, but there is nothing you can do to make it work, sorry.

if someone makes it work then i will say i was wrong, but untill then...

i am in no way an expert on alarms of any sort, but from my experience with the #2 dipswitch being flipped, it does immobilize the car.

i sat in my car at a gas station for about 5 mins after doing the flip wondering WTF happened to my car. finally after unsucessfully cranking the car numerous times i noticed the LED on the cluster cover blinking so i hit the unlock button on my remote and voila, car kicks over no problem. i did nothing more than turn off the car let timer run down and pump gas into tank get back in and try to start car.

as for the bosch relay idea, i agree i couldn't get it to work either

just my $.02

 

[122 Vega]

Yeah I already posted another thread that it didn't work. I apologized for it as well.

Britt

 

[DSM2MSP]

Not sure if this would work, but have you ever armed the alarm while a door was open? It alarms itself once the door is closed, so I would assume the alarm knows the door is closed by the switch on the door jamb (which in turns lights the indicator light on the gauge), so is it possible to hook up the TT to the door jamb so when the TT turns off it turns off the indicator light as well, thus arming the alarm?

 

[Dr.Sound]

^ dude, dont think our alarm is that smart.
our alarm looks at the dome light.

but it's a good idea.......i will try this on saturday.



P.S oh, and i have DG carbon fiber eyelids.......so should i delete my post?

 

[DSM2MSP]

I just thought about this but if the car was running i dont think the alarm would arm itself, so I dont think my idea would work out to be that simple. But im not sure how the alarm would react while the engine was running....can you guys actually arm the alarm or would it just not do anything at all?

 

[Dr.Sound]

not do anything at all

yeah, the idea doesnt work.

 

[Antihope]

Here's my solution. Everyone take up smoking. Park. Hop out. Shut door with engine running. Smoke. Turn off car. Problem solved. And it's only going to cost me about $20 a week and a pair of lungs. Well worth it IMO.

 

[DSM2MSP]

It could be possible to set up a relay to when the engine turns off/TT turns off it sends a signal to arm the alarm.

What kind of sensor arms the alarm with the key? Not the key fob but when you lock the doors on the outside with keyhole? If it could be possible to set up a relay so that when the TT turns off, its sends a signal to whatever that door look sensor thus arming the alarm.

 

[Dr.Sound]

edit

 

[Dr.Sound]

Here's my solution. Everyone take up smoking. Park. Hop out. Shut door with engine running. Smoke. Turn off car. Problem solved. And it's only going to cost me about $20 a week and a pair of lungs. Well worth it IMO.

^ best solution so far

 

[goku4658]

is it safe to assume that nobody can arm their car, while the tt is counting down?

 

[Dr.Sound]

not that we know of.
i've been here for a while, and i've talked to people who have been here since the birth of MSP. noone knows of anyone who is able to arm their car while the TT is counting down.

 

[CommieSpeed]

I usually spend my TT time explaining to the other person in my car why I can't turn it off yet! I actually ended up making out with this girl in the MSP for a half hour because of the conversation that the waiting period sparked! Made me feel kind of stupid after putting mine in. Don't you think it is really sad that NOONE can solve this problem? I have seen like 3 threads for this and we all think it's solved by the end and then the solution ends up being bunk!!! WTF!!! CAN ANYONE HELP US!!! ANYONE WANT TO BUY A BLITZ DUAL TT DCII?!?!?!?!?!?! ARG!